Boxers have regressed a lot

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by bballchump11, Aug 28, 2012.


  1. renyo

    renyo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No.. I dont believe that. Less belts means your really have to fight the best to be considered a champ, so you get more quality fights. That also means fans get thee fights they want because no belt, no money. We were getting elite guys fighting each other when they were still hungry and aggressive fighters instead of the older toned down versions fighting.. Certain eras had much less ducking, but we still get those now.. Oscars welter and light welter era was second to none, and they all fought each other with great skill..

    And the thread starter talks about roids now and brings up fights where roids were rampant but hardly tested for.. Lmfao
     
  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I'll tell you what I think. I think logic has very little to do with it. I think you came into this thread with a given attitude determined to leave it with same attitude regardless of was said to you. It could be that you have a very open mind but I think that's unlikely based upon your posts.

    I agree there is a difference between knowing something and suspecting something is true based upon what you are told, but I think your determination to resist even the later tells its own story. Either way, i'll leave you to your opinion (and Uncle Sue).
     
  3. bobotnaman

    bobotnaman ★★★★☆ Full Member

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    ^ link? any reputable reliable sources?
     
  4. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    All I was asking for was some statistics to verify claims being made in this thread. If I could see them then of course I'd believe it straight away. As I explained I think boxing is a more worldwide sport nowadays rather than a British/American sport as it was. To me that suggests that the talent pool would be deeper especially with these talented Eastern European and Cuban fighters competing now. You honestly can't see how that would be a reasonable assumption for me to make? I completely agree that the talent pool in America has decreased, and they used to be number one in the pro and amateur ranks. Now they have little in either and it isn't as a popular sport as a result. Outside of America boxing is healthier and more popular than it has ever been.
     
  5. r1p00pk

    r1p00pk Well-Known Member Full Member

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    maybe too much focus on strength and conditioning programs when you can just run and then train your skills?


    no more pivoting, more back stepping etc et those types of techniques arent really used anymore.
     
  6. Bane

    Bane Let the games begin Full Member

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    My homie BBall, always on point, very good thread and I completely agree. :good
     
  7. SJS19

    SJS19 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Focus has shifted to being physically ready to fight, as opposed to actually knowing how to fight.
     
  8. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    I wish we had more fighters like this coming up
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnwLEbFoBFs[/ame]

    Monday-Saturday, Mike was training around 55 hours
     
  9. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    wouldn't that help make my point?
     
  10. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    :patsch this guy thinks the less you do something, the better you are at it.

    I'm sure if a fighter fights once a year, he'd give more effort in that one fight than a fighter fighting 10 times a year, but the fighter fighting 10 times a year is overall getting better. Look at my Mike Tyson example from earlier when he fought 28 fights in his first 2 years as a pro

    :lol: ok the eastern bloc and cuban fighters are why the talent is so much better. Please can you tell me how many of those fighters are ranked in the top 10 p4p?
    Wlad, Vitali, Gamboa?
     
  11. JASPER

    JASPER Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I have been saying that for years bro! Boxing was at its peak in the 80s and it has been making a gradual decline ever since:deal
     
  12. JASPER

    JASPER Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Agreed . . . today we talk about training and fitness. Back then they had great trainers and fought a lot more.
     
  13. str1

    str1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A ***** that says that SRR can beat Mayweather is not a ***** afterall. Bballchump11 ksab!
     
  14. SJS19

    SJS19 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    BBall and Leon are two of the best posters here mate.
     
  15. Royal-T-Bag

    Royal-T-Bag Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    has a lot to do with the talent pool too. Boxing used to be the #1 sport in popularity....everyone wanted to be HW champ, it's now not even top 10. ****ing golf is more popular! There are no where near as many pro boxers nowadays and the ABC's make it so that you don't have to face an A level fighter in order to grab a belt and make a living so fighters can o through 20+fights, win a belt and still never be tested. Top contenders avoid each other cause they know there's easier routes to a title and avoid improving as a result of not upping to opposition level. Guys with potential to be great stop improving cause they take too long to fight a top tier fighter and when they do they're a fish out of water and they get blown out a la Bute/Khan. Look at Stieglitz for **** sakes!! Look at Brian Magee! Guys that wouldn't even be top 10 contenders (both barely are today either) yet champions. Luckily we still got guys that wanna do it the right way but the diff between contenders of today and yesteryear is huge in class.

    Another factor is trainers......there are very few old school minded trainers focused on the mental side of boxing, they're all about using modern techniques and science to create elite athletic specimens but don't spend enough time teaching them how to adapt, set traps, negate opponents best assets and how to best use their own weapons.