Boxers Most Impressive Wins Are Constantly Being Invalidated By Their Own Stupid Fans.

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  1. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    It amazes me how often fans shoot themselves in the foot when hyping their favorite fighter, I've mentioned this a few times on some other threads.

    Ward is the number 2 P4P fighter in the world because he beat Carl Froch and Mikkel Kessler, yet all I see is Ward's fans bend over backwards to bash and criticize both of them saying how they were overrated hypejobs, because after all look how easily they were schooled by Ward, this is a very problematic act for someone who in theory should be concerned with their favorite fighter's legacy, because by criticizing them it devalues Ward 2 greatest accomplishments.

    By taking Froch, Kessler and even Abraham out of the equation because they were "overrated bums", what does that leave Ward with, Bika, a badly drained Dawson, and a washed up Miranda. Not HoF material there is it? So I guess that means Ward isn't that great.... right?

    Matthysse is now being painted as a complete loser according to Garcia fans, they want to gloat and tell all of Lucas' fanboys they were stupid for backing him and he wasn't that good to start with.. then doesn't that add to Danny's detractors argument that Swift's resume is built on has beens and bums? Matthysse if overrated, that devalues Garcia's win over him, which also happens to be his signature win. So I guess that would mean Garcia is not that impressive after all.

    Floyd fans love to throw off on Canelo now that Floyd beat him with the greatest of ease, they call him a hypejob, and they argue that Lara should have won in their match and was robbed. But Canelo by beating Lara, in theory shouldn't that show just how good Mayweather is, Lara the divisions boogieman, just ran the whole fight scared to take a punch, whereas Floyd stood in the middle of the ring fearless and relaxed out boxed Alvarez and made him look like the inexperienced kid he is. Shouldn't most of Floyd's fans be in favor of the Canelo-Lara decision, it only go to show how good Mayweater really is, but if Canelo now sucks because he was beaten by "TBE", Floyd's win over him means nothing.

    Rigondeaux defeated P4P Donaire, now everyone thinks Donaire is an overrated loser who should retire, who was never worth anything to begin with, well then that kind of serves the argument that Rigo's victory isn't that good and he shouldn't be on any P4P lists. Personally I do think Donaire was overrated.

    GGG fans obsessively build him up by saying what a scary monster he is, which no doubt, he is, but the relative ease in which he dispatches most of his opponents, is a testament to how good he truly is. But many his fans have invalidated his best wins by making light of everyone who's faced him up to this point beforehand by saying everyone who steps in the ring with him stand zero chance. If his opponents are losers predestined to fail why should anyone be impressed by the wins. Stop shooting GGG in the foot dammit.

    Its logical for Manny fans to bash and tear down Floyd's victories and vice versa, that serves a purpose and furthers their argument or shall we say propaganda, but when fans bash the conquered opponents of their favorites its incredibly illogical, quite frankly bizarre and very self defeating. What's wrong with you?
     
  2. texboxing00

    texboxing00 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's hypocrisy. But apparently it only applies when discrediting other fighters.
     
  3. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    Good thread mate and agree 100% only really stupid posters do this and obvious trolls.
    better to ignore em.
     
  4. HoldMyBeer

    HoldMyBeer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    there are flag wavers on both sides of the pond...
    nobody in their right mind would call Kessler or froch hypejobs, and nobody in their right mind would try to downplay ward's wins over them
     
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  5. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Believe it or not I've argued with a few posters about this, that's partially what inspired the thread, many people on here downplay Froch and Kessler and are nuts for doing so.:nut
     
  6. rhin0z>

    rhin0z> Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Canelo did look like a big slow brawler bum against floyd and lara swinging at air like the blades on a fan.

    Rigo destroyed the boxer of the year making him look like a bum

    The machine just got caught with a good left hook. He looked good up till then.

    So yeah donair and canelo were outclassed and against those fighters they looked like bums

    I would not call them outright bums. but for one or two nights they met the defintion of a overrated bum
     
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  7. Meazy-E

    Meazy-E Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Thread of the year.
     
  8. Just Rik

    Just Rik Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It depends if they were calling scrubs before the fight and after than that's just being what they feel is truthful. And many times this is done because even when the fighter they felt was going to win does win, the haters come back and make some kind of excuse, like "the only reason he won is because..." So they have to defend by letting it be known why they felt their guy was always going to win. They are not putting down their fighter's comp for no reason, hater's usually make it that way...
     
  9. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    It is hypocrisy and very odd but at the same time better than keeping an agenda to build up every fighter that the theoretical favorite fighter beat.
     
  10. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Kind of like everybody throwing off on Maidana before the Mayweather fight, and then acting like he'd beat every WW in the division afterward, because he did better than people thought he would. Yeah that irritates me as well.
     
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  11. Staminakills

    Staminakills Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Good post and sadly very accurate.
    What I will add is in most of these instances it's fighter haters that are trying their best to downplay certain wins and claiming the win means ****.

    Way way too often many boxing haters claiming to be fans. It's very easy to pick these posters out. After a couple days of sifting through threads you'll see trends that are sad yet go on day after day after day.

    It's very easy to get suckered into these miserable posters but just try your best to ignore these cancers.
    Misery loves company
     
  12. ElCyclon

    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You sound as delirious as Lara for equating those 2 fights.
     
  13. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    I haven't seen too much of that but if you have, then yeah, that counts.

    I guess in some ways the extremes that this thread describes is the utmost example of people over valuing "you are only as good as your last fight."
     
  14. Xelloss

    Xelloss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Moanamchara Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No it has been happening a lot I have been here longer than I have been posting but one of the reasons I started is because of bull**** like this. I have been arguing if Wards best wins are bums how is Ward any good. I am a fan of both Ward and Froch but it might not seem like it in a lot of my posts because I have to reality check delusional fans of Ward who call him a HOF but his best wins are bums.