Boxers' Records against p4p fighters

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  1. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    Just for fun reference. Against top 10 p4p fighters ranked by The Ring, these are the fighters' official records against others.

    http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.php/The_Ring_Magazine%27s_Annual_Ratings:_Pound_For_Pound--1990s

    http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.php/The_Ring_Magazine%27s_Annual_Ratings:_Pound_For_Pound--2000s


    • Oscar De La Hoya: 1-4 (0) (Whitaker, Trinidad, Mosley, Mayweather, Hopkins)
    • Bernard Hopkins: 3-0 (2) (Trinidad, De La Hoya, Wright)
    • Floyd Mayweather: 2-0 (2) (Corrales, Hatton)
    • Pernell Whitaker: 2-2-1 (0) (Nelson, McGirt, Chavez, De La Hoya, Trinidad)
    • Julio Cesar Chavez 2-2-1 (1) (Taylor, Whitaker, Randall 2, De La Hoya 2x)
    • Roy Jones: 1-2 (0) (Toney, Tarver 2x)
    • Shane Mosley 2-3 (0) (De La Hoya 2x, Forrest 1x, Wright 1x, Cotto...Forrest and Wright became ranked top 10 p4p AFTER beating Shane, Cotto's been on the bottom end since mid 2007)
    • Ricky Hatton 1-1 (1) (Tszyu, Mayweather)
    • Felix Trinidad: 2-2 (1) (De La Hoya, Vargas, Hopkins, Wright....Vargas was not on it at the end of 1999 but got on in it in 2000 after beating Quartey).
    • Marco Antonio Barrera 3-3 (0) (J. Jones 1x, Morales 3x, Pacquiao 1x, Hamed)
    • James Toney 1-1 (1) (Nunn, Jones)
    • Manny Pacquiao: 2-1 (2) (Barrera 1x, Morales in the first 2 bouts)
    • Juan Manuel Marquez 1-0-1 (0) (Pacquiao, Barrera)
    • Erik Morales 1-4 (0) (Barrera 2 and 3, Pacquiao 3x)
     
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  2. jc

    jc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Its laughable that they put Tarver in the pound for pound list. The problem with p4p status is that you cant just win it. Resume seems to be what matters more than skill level, or who win would in a H2h argument, which it originally was supposed to mean.

    im guilty myself of putting guys with names on the record, Taylor/Pavlik over guys with better skills, imo Guzman and Calderon are twice as skilled as either but dont have either in my top 10...:-(

    I think ill change my view on p4p status from now on and go by who i beleive is the most skilled and who would be the best in the h2h debates!
     
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  3. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    That's what I do already. But I do it 50/50. I also analyse resume for what it should be, not just name opponents. Taylor's resume is not impressive at all if analysed correctly.

    And then of course, Mijares' resume is quite decent.
     
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  4. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    Are these p4p at the time of the fights??? or is it p4p at one time or another ..because if its the latter..then this is horse****
     
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  5. BADINTENTIONS2

    BADINTENTIONS2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    agreed.
    but because it's 'mythical' it really depends on the education of the person making that judgement.

    it has to be at the time they fought a 'great' or it's valididity fades into nothing. sorry joe...
     
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  6. thanosone

    thanosone Love Your Brother Man Full Member

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    Garbage post. Just all the way around. Don't have time to point out all the trash. BUt yes ****ing **** thread.
     
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  7. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    Great contribution.

    We're lucky to have you here.
     
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  8. Thread Stealer

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    At the time.

    Of course not any time.
     
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  9. elTerrible

    elTerrible TeamElite General Manager Full Member

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    del
     
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  10. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Joe Calzaghe 6-0
     
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  11. Thread Stealer

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    Calzaghe: 0-0 until April 19th.
     
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  12. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    7-0 can be assumed if you count Hopkins as P4P, which he sure as hell isn't.
     
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  13. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Name the 6 CHJ.
     
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  14. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Robin Reid in his prime (which lasted one night).
    Second (for one night only) prime Eubanks
    Pre-ruined by Calzaghe David Starie.
    The undefeated Mario Veit x 2
    Mikkel Kessler
     
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  15. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    :yep

    No Left Jacy?
     
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