Boxers' Records against p4p fighters

dangerousity · Mar 1, 2008

Thread Stealer said:

Just for fun reference. Against top 10 p4p fighters ranked by The Ring, these are the fighters' official records against others.

http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.php/The_Ring_Magazine%27s_Annual_Ratings:_Pound_For_Pound--1990s

http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.php/The_Ring_Magazine%27s_Annual_Ratings:_Pound_For_Pound--2000s

Oscar De La Hoya: 1-4 (0) (Whitaker, Trinidad, Mosley, Mayweather, Hopkins)

Bernard Hopkins: 3-0 (2) (Trinidad, De La Hoya, Wright)

Floyd Mayweather: 2-0 (2) (Corrales, Hatton)

Pernell Whitaker: 2-2-1 (0) (Nelson, McGirt, Chavez, De La Hoya, Trinidad)

Julio Cesar Chavez 2-2-1 (1) (Taylor, Whitaker, Randall 2, De La Hoya 2x)

Roy Jones: 1-2 (0) (Toney, Tarver 2x)

Shane Mosley 2-3 (0) (De La Hoya 2x, Forrest 1x, Wright 1x, Cotto...Forrest and Wright became ranked top 10 p4p AFTER beating Shane, Cotto's been on the bottom end since mid 2007)

Ricky Hatton 1-1 (1) (Tszyu, Mayweather)

Felix Trinidad: 2-2 (1) (De La Hoya, Vargas, Hopkins, Wright....Vargas was not on it at the end of 1999 but got on in it in 2000 after beating Quartey).

Marco Antonio Barrera 3-3 (0) (J. Jones 1x, Morales 3x, Pacquiao 1x, Hamed)

James Toney 1-1 (1) (Nunn, Jones)

Manny Pacquiao: 2-1 (2) (Barrera 1x, Morales in the first 2 bouts)

Juan Manuel Marquez 1-0-1 (0) (Pacquiao, Barrera)

Erik Morales 1-4 (0) (Barrera 2 and 3, Pacquiao 3x)

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Are you basing this on perceived p4p fighter at the time of fighting them or their top 10 ranking at the time of fighting them?

JMM although wasnt rated top 10 p4p at the time Pac got the draw with him, was considered closer to prime or prime compared to his #3 p4p status now. So although hes climbed the p4p rankings, in most peoples eyes, he was better back then than he is now, does that count? For the record Morales on the 2nd fight I think just fell off the top 10 slightly after loosing to Raheem, MAB was also around 11-12th when he fought Pac 2nd time round. Ledwaba was top 10 p4p or borderline at the time Pac beat him.

dangerousity · Mar 1, 2008

China_hand_Joe said:

Robin Reid in his prime (which lasted one night).
Second (for one night only) prime Eubanks
Pre-ruined by Calzaghe David Starie.
The undefeated Mario Veit x 2
Mikkel Kessler
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Prime Eubank? lol. Prime Eubank-Calzaghe would have been alot closer. But he was possibly still borderline p4p at the time, and id give you Kessler.

Thread Stealer · Mar 1, 2008

dangerousity said:

Are you basing this on perceived p4p fighter at the time of fighting them or their top 10 ranking at the time of fighting them?

JMM although wasnt rated top 10 p4p at the time Pac got the draw with him, was considered closer to prime or prime compared to his #3 p4p status now. So although hes climbed the p4p rankings, in most peoples eyes, he was better back then than he is now, does that count? For the record Morales on the 2nd fight I think just fell off the top 10 slightly after loosing to Raheem, MAB was also around 11-12th when he fought Pac 2nd time round. Ledwaba was top 10 p4p or borderline at the time Pac beat him.
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I'm basing this on The Ring's year-end lists, which I linked.

P4P is subjective and should all be in fun and not so serious anyway.

However I think part of the blame in the perceived importance of P4P rankings lies in the sanctioning bodies and not knowing whom is a real or paper champ.

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