Boxers that lost there punch resistance

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  1. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Another guy that comes to mind is a name not thrown around much these days, Simon Brown. He went from top shelf whiskers to poor about as fast as anyone. What a pendulum swing and it happened after that first ko defeat & really not an accumulation like lots of good chin guys had. More like a flick of a switch.


    Deteriorating reflexes and legs are one thing, but to lose punch resistance overnight has to be the single worst asset a guy can lose.
     
  2. red cobra

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    And yet he went 15 with Marciano.
     
  3. Vantage_West

    Vantage_West ヒップホップ·プロデューサー Full Member

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    vincentt pettway was a puncher. a fragile, emotional, weak looking light light-middle that could crack. it swung the betting when he fought norris. also pettway-brown is a fantastic match, brown thought he had him gone and just left his right side open for that sweeping left hook.

    simon brown, had an amazing chin, norris couldnt phase him, against hopkins he was nearing 36 and a division or two against a much bigger man. and it was more of a case that he got crushed instead of being really 'knocked out'

    but the punch he took from ried and larson where punches he wouldn't of taken had he been younger.

    i think this is the crux of the thread. do you actually lose chin or is it a defensive issue. you cant spin your head fast enough to take the punch or you just don't see it.

    but still good suggestion


    p.s. looking back at that it looks like im taking the **** . im not
     
  4. Azzer85

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    IMO, Tyson
    he took monstrous shots against Ruddock and didnt even flinch and still kept coming, yet in 1996, every Holyfield punch seemed to be having effect. And compared to Ruddock, Holyfield is featherfisted
     
  5. red cobra

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    Both Doug DeWitt and Sean O'Grady lost their punch resistence at the end of their careers.
     
  6. bonzo7580

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    llyold honeyghans punch resistence completely went mark breland was staggering him with jabs .
     
  7. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And I think it was a cover story interview in KO Magazine immediately after O'Grady retired which was titled, "All of a Sudden, I Couldn't Take a Punch!" But I've often wondered if Sean simply lost his resistance because he stepped up in class. Hilmer Kenty was ill with walking pneumonia and a temperature when O'Grady took his WBA Title. (A fighter running a fever should not be allowed to compete.) Danny Lopez stopped him with body shots, no reflection on Sean's chin, but indeed a reflection of lack of punch resistance in general.

    Ganigan blew him out, scoring the fatal third knockdown with a left to the body, and a slowed Verderosa retired him after O'Grady started well. Ranzany beat him cleanly in neutral Las Vegas. He boxed a retreating fight against Watt before the blood starting flowing from both. Throw cuts out of the equation, and Jim takes a clear cut decision from Sean. Aside from an ill Kenty and an MD over an undefeated Gonzalo Montellano in Omaha, there's not a lot of nutritional density to O'Grady's resume of wins, mostly empty calories. Yes, a solid boxer, as anybody who's seen him in action knows, but did he ever truly possess a world class chin?

    Pipino Cuevas is often the first name I think of. A defensively limited slugger who won a dozen straight title fights against opposition with an obscene combined won-loss record, he had a reputation for an iron chin until Hearns took it away from him in Detroit. He clearly knew where he was and what was happening at all times against Hearns, Stafford and Duran, but the capacity to stand up to a good shot didn't seem to be what it had been. Herman Montes dispatched him with a classic one punch knockout, a quick hook in the middle of a torrid exchange, very different from the knockdowns Pipino took from the other three. The Stafford knockdown was sudden, but could be categorized as a flash KD. Still, not something likely to have happened during the body of Pipino's reign.
     
  8. Duodenum

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    Thanks for that account. I was curious about this match, and your post prompted me to look it up on youtube. Dammit, he was the aggressor and actually winning until three rights to the temple off the ropes suddenly felled him for the count. The only time I've seen Earnie go down more quickly was when Sims felled him with an opening round right. It typically took a good deal more than that to drop or stop him.

    What stood out to me was that his power seemed to be gone.
     
  9. Vantage_West

    Vantage_West ヒップホップ·プロデューサー Full Member

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    brilliant one.
    if you ever see him against adrian dodson it is just scary. i mean he is completely out of it competitively but he just..every shot dodson connected effected him.

    i think a left hand lands by dodson which is more of a ploy because he really is loading up with the right hook/uppercut while he circled to his left so he can land it straight down the pipe...right hand never hits him. the pawing left cross rams him into the ropes.

    great fighter who continued a bit too late.
     
  10. janitor

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    Rex Layne is perhaps one of the more spectacular examples.
     
  11. Stevie G

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    John Conteh's lack of punch resistance in the second Saad Muhammad fight was alarming. In the first bout,John took everything that Saad threw at him. The knockdowns in the fourteenth were down to exhaustion more than anything else.
     
  12. AlFrancis

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    I think Conteh's punch resistance was suffering before the first Saad fight. He'd looked shaky in the Jesse Burnett and i think the Ivy Brown fight too. It was a great performance against Saad when you consider that at the time of the fight he was already considered shot. The second fight proved it.
     
  13. Twelve

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    Bob Foster had zero tolerance whenever he decided to journey into the HW division. He didn't fight big punchers either and he still got starched.
     
  14. TBooze

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    Meldrick Taylor showed he could take a hit and keep on ticking (Black Mamba), then he bumped into the Kid from Culiacan, and was never quite the same again...
     
  15. The Funny Man 7

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