Boxers that would've done better under older/newer rulesets?

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  1. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    I was watching some Max Baer footage in the thread where Ali comments on the greats of the past.... and can't help but think that he might have been better suited for bareknuckle boxing before the 20th century. Excellent stamina, big punching power as well as durability, great heart, and he would be a giant in that time.
     
  2. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Hmmmmmmmm

    Which bareknuckle period are we going to put him into?

    In the later bareknuckle era of the late 19th century his lack of boxing technique could have been as much of a problem as it was in his own era though he would have had a substantial size advantage over any slick macean boxer. Some big fighters like Tom King (who was good at countering) could have given him problems.

    I think if you put him in the early 1800s then he would indeed be verry well suited to the ruleset
     
  3. Rebel-INS

    Rebel-INS Mighty Healthy Full Member

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    Hearns would've been better off with tge current weigh in rules.
     
  4. SgrRyLeonard

    SgrRyLeonard Active Member Full Member

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    Hopkins would have done better in the 15 round era. The first fight with Taylor would have been a win for Bernard if it was 15 rounds.
     
  5. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    I dont want to imagine a Holyfield fight with Donovan as the reff.
     
  6. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    I know of a few names and big fights, but other than that my bareknuckle boxing is non-existent, so i'm leaving this one for the experts like you and others.


    What about Jim Jeffries? Given his durability, strength combined with wrestling ability and size, late round power and speed, he'd be one heck of a force. He already was, of course, but could he have been the greatest bareknuckle champion of the 19th century?
     
  7. Boilermaker

    Boilermaker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Quite possibly, but his legacy would have been much worse off if Sullivan had fought him and knocked him out. I think this is a very real possibility.

    In reality, Jeffries pretty much fits into any era, IMO. Even if he is taken at his very worst, he has good size, impeccable chin and stamina, great strength and a big punch (if somewhat ordinary technique). In every era, it is only a matter of time before someone with these talents rises to the top of the tree. Look at guys like Willard, Baer, Carnera, Foreman, McCall, Valuev. Jeffries would have succeeded in any era, imo. In all honesty, (with the exeption of the comeback Johnson fight) I dont see how he could have possibly been any more dominant in any other era than what he was in his own era. He fought and beat everyone around, while he was fighting.
     
  8. A Rock

    A Rock SAMUEL ETO'O!!!!! Full Member

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    Henry Armstrong would be holding like 15 belts if he was living today
     
  9. Shake

    Shake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Jersey Joe Walcott would be a ******* to beat in a 12-round fight.
     
  10. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There was an excellent article in The Ring some 20 odd years back, about what if London Prize Rules were re-introduced?

    The main conclusions were Mike Tyson may just of been unbeatable.... Hector Camacho less so!
     
  11. biglads

    biglads Climbing the WBO Rankings Full Member

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    I think I remember that issue, they said that Tommy Hearns would be in trouble because he'd break his hands all the time on his opponents heads.
     
  12. radianttwilight

    radianttwilight Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What about Tyson in four-round Willie Meehan type fights?
     
  13. radianttwilight

    radianttwilight Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Imagine Marciano in a 40 rounder...
     
  14. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    A few people in Jeffries time said that he would have been the best bareknuckle fighters ever.

    Jim Corbett (who himself fought with leather gloves) said that Jeffries would have been thought of as a technical boxer a few years earlier (on top of his physical advantages) and that he was as durable as any bareknucke fighter of the latter half of the 19th century.
     
  15. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    DLH would be ****ed in the 15 round days.