Boxers to study as a short and slim beginner?

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  1. Mandela2039

    Mandela2039 Philippians 2:10-11 Full Member

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    For context, I’m around 5'7" and currently weigh 109 lbs. I started training two weeks ago, and my coach—world champ Ana Pascal (for anyone wondering)—has told me a lot about my supposed God-given talent. I don’t want to sound like an egotistical douchebag, so I’ll just say she seems confident in me and is planning my amateur debut for August if everything goes well.

    She says I’ll be fighting at minimumweight, and in the meantime, she recommends that I study boxers with a similar frame so I can learn from their tactics.

    Lately, I’ve been studying and copying a lot of Sugar Ray Robinson, and I’ve grown really attached to his style. But with my frame, I don’t think I can pull off everything he did.

    I know of Ricardo López, and I’ve also been studying Roberto Durán and Eusebio Pedroza, but that’s pretty much it when it comes to my study journey so far.

    So, can any of you recommend other great boxers I could study and learn from—especially those who were short, had solid fundamentals, and maybe fought in the lower weight classes?
    My coach says I’ve got power, a strong neck (good chin, basically), and solid defense for my level, but I severely lack stamina and conditioning right now.
     
  2. Shay Sonya

    Shay Sonya The REAL Wonder Woman! Full Member

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    Kenshiro Teraji looks like an excellent Flyweight (limit 112 pounds) so I would think he deserves a look. He won the vacant WBC Flyweight Championship in October of 2024.
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  3. Shay Sonya

    Shay Sonya The REAL Wonder Woman! Full Member

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    There are other Kenshiro Teraji fights on YouTube.
     
  4. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    I know he is a little bigger weight wise but Innoue is a great fighter to study. Especially how he uses his left hook to the body and head. Study him. Good luck. Looking forward to your progress.
     
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  5. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Delusional BUT Determined Full Member

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    I’d just stay with Ricardo Lopez if you’re tall for your weight (are you?) instead of observing him…actually if you are tall I’d opt for Joe Louis he’s bigger his movements are slower and more purposeful looking, operated like a programmed machine you’ll be able to see things clearer and he had skills regardless of the weight and no fighter today I’ve seen outgrew his fistic capabilities so neither will you most likely, pray you do it’d be good to see someone as good as Louis again.
     
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  6. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Delusional BUT Determined Full Member

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    Lastly, adding to this, stamina and conditioning… just remember not to hold your breath under fire or if you get excited, that’s an issue with some guys wind when fighting, it even happens at the top some boxers hold there breath trying to finish someone and gas out lol. Among the best advice I’ve heard is to stay calm, running won’t help you anywhere near as much at this level as relaxing will. George Foreman would not have lacked for hard enough training he had Saddler and Moore they knew how to train boxers but he got so mentally tense it was his Achilles heel - if it’s 3 rounds I’m positive you’re fine for stamina, it’s probably your nerves needing easing in the ring so just spar more and keep running but MAYBE don't run on days you spar you need your legs.
     
  7. FThabxinfan

    FThabxinfan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think Greg Haugen is great to learn from,I know he still has some kind of muscles,but he's still pretty small and skinny.
     
  8. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If I could have copied anyone's style,,,Give me Ricardo Lopez.
     
  9. Barrf

    Barrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Watch the footwork of Bam Rodriguez and how he's constantly changing angles in order to create openings. I specifically name him because for one he's exceptional at this, but for another, he's active and still relatively early on in his career, so the footage of him is in crystal clear 4k.

    Watch the thing he'll do where he decides where he wants to hit an opponent then changes angle via footwork to create an opening to that spot. There's one fight in particular (maybe it was Rungvisai?) where at one point Bam decides "this guy's liver needs punching" and changes angles 3x in a row until he gets that shot in.

    Oh and start busting your ass training up your cardio. To have success at your size you'll need limitless stamina because, rest assured, your opponents will have it.
     
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    MrPook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If you got poor conditioning, you got to train hard. You got to train possessed.


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  11. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    You can't be short and slim at the same time in boxing.

    How do you stack up against other fighters of the same weight?

    What woudl you typically have over them, and what woudl they typically have over you?
     
  12. FThabxinfan

    FThabxinfan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Greg Haugen has that answer,or maybe even Muhammad Rachman,though both weren't too short or skinny.
     
  13. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    OK, but we need to see the other man through this gentleman's eyes.

    When he is looking at his opponent, what is he looking at?
     
  14. FThabxinfan

    FThabxinfan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Mostly their physique comes first,then skills.
     
  15. greynotsoold

    greynotsoold Boxing Addict

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    You are actually quite tall for the weight class in which you plan to fight. Ricardo Lopez was tall for that weight and you are 2 inches taller.
    Anybody of any size can learn a ton by watching Lopez.
    You are just a couple of weeks in. I would suggest watching anything any everything because, at this point, you have no idea what you are going to be good at, what your strengths will be, or how you are going to choose to fight. watch everything and steal ideas from all of it, and pay attention to what future opponents will be trying to do to you.
    When you start sparring, your understanding of everything that you think you know right now will shift dramatically. It will shift again after your first fight.
     
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