Boxers who had other boxers numbers

I would agree with Barrera - Jones but don't you think that Pep was just too Old and after big Injury? He still managed too snatch one fight off of him.

 

No because Pep was beating everybody around except Saddler,

Sandy just had his number

 

Would Sandy beat him prior to injury you say?
For example. If Wladimir would lose his right arm in freak injury he would still beat 99% of division comfortably but Haye Might have a better shot. It doesn't mean that Haye could ever beat two handed version.

 

Young Corbett over Terry McGovern might just be the most dramatic example.

 

Well Sandy beat a Pep with two hands so that an extremely over the top example.

Going by the Pep fans on here you'd think they used to wheel Pep into the ring and drag him out of his wheelchair, when the fact of the matter is Pep was beating every world class featherweight around except Saddler,

Sandy wins are shamelessly discredited & dismissed more than anybody else's on here

 

u do have some valid arguments in your post ,

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Wlad would have probably gassed again in d rematch if Brewster could take it again if he only was given enough time 2 heal ..
McClellan was in fact finishing Benn but d ref repeatedly didn't let him.
Holyfield & Moorer were saved vs Cooper because their cornermen cut/tore their gloves so they will have a case 2 pause d fite if their men got seriously endangered , which is exactly what happened .
Vs. Norris , Norris was a smart boxer , skillful and talented , but Cooper hit hard .. yet again .
Moorer & Holyfield were only saved due 2 a cheat .
D weight loss of Jones vs Tarver is soooo exaggerated , Jones weighed in 193 for Ruiz .. wwooooww !! , BIG DEAL ... do u think his walking weight during his lightheavy prime was 175 ? do u think his fighting weight @ lightheavyweight was 175 ? almost no one fights or walks d streets @ his weighing in weight , and this includes Jones of course .
all he added for Ruiz were some mighty 5-7 lbs of carbohydrates , water and proteins in his muscles , and a little bit more afforded fat (probably less ) and then he didn't have 2 dehydrate .
Do u think that this is what killed him ? Tarver had 2 dehydrate more than Jones !! ALWAYS !! Jones still survived him in the first fite which was the closest in time to his lame HW title fight .
Griffin had a fair chance at beating Jones in their first fight , then in d rematch , Griffin rushed into d ring without getting sufficient time to get his muscles warmed up.
McCall was 2 much 4 many , Lewis included .
Remember Rahman happened with Steward in Lewis corner , remember Brewster happened with Steward in Wlad's corner , remeber Hearns' debacles , with Steward in his corner .
McCall was signed 2 d Lewis rematch while still in rehab institute , no time to get back on tracks , go in there 'n fite !! , still , Lewis couldn't put him down , I actually think McCall was trying 2 lure Lewis 2 sucker punch again in their rematch , but I don't blame d referee for doing what he did .. not at all .
I probably forgot 2 reply to some of your points , because the changed text is not quoted here , so I may come back with more

 

And the reason to Frazier > Ellis is not Frazier being better as much as it is Frazier being a solid 200 lber while Ellis a blown up 160 lber , see the difference . Ellis actually fought as a middleweight prior to his "heavy" years . Also , Frazier was younger .

Yes , there is always a reason 2 every thing .
Flukes do not exist , especially not in boxing .

 

Duran and leonard I over exaggerated but I think they'd split a prime series.

Did I see griffin toney mentioned? Toney won both fights in my humble opinion.

 

it's not **** becuz you dont like seeing it :bbb

Terry proved his master.

Get it?

When you whip another fighter in the ring, it's called PROVING YOURSELF

Ray has never proven Terry's master even tho he was heavily favored

But the way you and yours talk, winning doesnt count for anything when it's your fighter that's on the losing end

Just take it like a man. Okay?

Peoople are just pissed that Terry fought such a great fight and neever suspected he was capable of displaying such versatility. they're probably even MORE bothered that Terry didnt slow down late and let Ray stage a last minute rally

Even Larry Holmes said Terry had the style to beat Ray so that's that!

If Terry's multidimensional, intelligent, attack wasnt what was needed to beat Ray then what style was???

You dont have to be a big name to pull it off, you just have to have the right plan along with the capability :deal

 

:huh

Ali finished 2-1 vs Frazier & Norton.
SRL finished 2-1 vs Duran.

Those as bad examples IMO.

 

barrera vs morales

 

WTF at the Liston v Patterson one. Come on Liston was superior to Patterson, was far bigger, stronger, tougher and didn't just "have his number" he was simply "better".

The ones that spring to mind have all been said
Forrest v Mosley
Mayorga v Forrest
Jones v Barrera
Norton v Ali (you can talk about your decisions but we know Ken got robbed)

 

:thumbsup

an oldie but goodie: meehan over dempsey

 

a good example J. :good

 

Ali did not beat ken twice :huh

Fotc proved to me that frazier was ali's nemesis.

Rubber between ray and rob means nothing to anyone.