Boxers who hated Ali?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Scott Cork, Jul 17, 2021.

  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

    Mar 21, 2007
    “Joe had some alcohol at the luncheon. And Joe doesn’t handle his liquor particularly well. Ali was sort of floating around like Mr.Magoo. Joe was in an ugly mood and would sort of brush up against him. You could see trouble was coming. So wherever Joe walked, Larry Holmes would walk with him and interpose himself between Joe and Ali…Larry did this for about ten minutes and then George Foreman took over.”

  2. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Jul 16, 2019
    Joe really stands out as the only one who really hated Muhammad Ali, even Sonny Liston did not generate that much hate towards him.
  3. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

    Mar 21, 2007
    “The truth is I’d like to rumble with that sucker again – beat him up piece by piece and mail him back to Jesus…people ask me if I feel bad for him. Nope. I don’t. Fact is I don’t give a damn. They want me to love him, but I’ll open the graveyard and bury his ass when the lord chooses to take him…Clay always mocked me – like I was the dummy. Getting hit in the head. Now look at him. He can hardly talk and he’s still out there trying to make noise…he’s a ghost, and I’m still here. Let’s talk about who really won those fights.”
  4. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

    Mar 21, 2007
    “It would have been a good thing if he would have lit the Olympic torch and fallen in. If I had the chance, I would have pushed him in.”
  5. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

    Mar 21, 2007
    “That Uncle Tom stuff was an attempt by Clay to make me feel isolated from my own people. He thought that would weaken me in the ring. Well, he was wrong. It didn’t weaken me, it awakened me to what a cheap son of a ***** he was.”
  6. Richard M Murrieta

    Richard M Murrieta Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Jul 16, 2019
    Joe Frazier did not want his son Marvis to talk to Ali, according to Marvis.
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  7. JackSilver

    JackSilver Boxing Addict Full Member

    Jun 24, 2017
    Liston sure wasn’t a fan of him or his antics
  8. steve1990

    steve1990 Active Member Full Member

    Jul 7, 2012
    Joe Frazier
    Ken Norton
    George Foreman
    Joe Louis
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  9. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Jul 4, 2014
    "You saying you could of beat me?"

    "Back in my day, we had something called the bum-of-the-month tour."

    "Are you calling me a bum?"

    "You'd have been on the tour."
  10. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict Full Member

    Dec 16, 2012
    While it is not good to gold a grudge, Ali was a vicious betrayer to Frazier & essentially expolited racists stereotypes against blacks folks & at best was uncaring that his words caused so much harm.
    Including Frazier's kids needing police protection.

    Frazier both gave/lent Ali money when he was banned & went to bat for him to get his license back at the highest level of the Nixon administration.
    Giveing Ali every benefit of the doubt, maybe he was not consciously cruel, but he at least did not care about the effect of his hateful betrayal of Frazier in his quest to sell tickets.

    Really Ali was great & magical in many ways.
    But in some ways he was an unintergrated, underdeveloped personality.
    As late as 1975 in the Playbo interview he was describing the virtures & necessities of murdering his fellow black people who were romantically with other races.
  11. greynotsoold

    greynotsoold Boxing Addict Full Member

    Aug 17, 2011
    Here is a better question...
    Name anybody that likes a non stop **** talking loud mouth that relentlessly demeans and insults them.
  12. KasimirKid

    KasimirKid Active Member Full Member

    Jun 1, 2018
    Terrell claimed that Ali rubbed his eye on the ropes and then thumbed it. The doctor diagnosed the damage after the fight as a "blow-out fracture of the bony structure under his eyeball." To put it mildly, Ernie was upset with Ali after the fight. I have never heard that Terrell changed his mind. Has anyone else?
  13. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Jul 17, 2009
    I don't recall Norton being pissed off with Muhammad.
  14. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Nov 22, 2014
    I don’t think anybody as far as fighters are concerned ever really hated Ali, but many of them definitely disagreed with his methods of promotion and think he pushed things too far regardless of how effective it was.
  15. Bronze Tiger

    Bronze Tiger Boxing Addict Full Member

    Jun 23, 2018
    Ali’s antics didn’t seem to bother Norton
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