Every man is flawed. He atoned for his sins and his wife forgave him. His charitable work far outweighs some infidelity as a younger man. Generally, most fighters aren’t alter boys. Holmes made some salty racially charged remarks after his loss to Spinks, got into street brawls and said some questionable things in interviews, do we judge him as a bad person overall? Does one character flaw cancel out every good deed a man has done?
Also, Arguello, I’m sure he didn’t intent no harm but he was friends with way too many shady people in Nicaragua (I am talking about politics) for me to call him great…
A loyal guy, boxers and trainers through history have often 'divorced' each other and often the grass has not always been greener, other than maybe an intial payday of Benjamin Franklins. A guy that paid his dues as many have and went from a 50 dollar debut to multi millions against SRL.
Gene Tunney, seemed to be a different stereotype in and out of the ring. Respectful to opponents pre fight, high IQ in the ring, George Bernard Shaw and him great friends outside the ring just seemed cut from a different cloth than a lot of the fighters that we talk about a century on.
To each their own brother, I’m not judging him personally, I am just going off of my interpretation of the thread title. All good.
Max Schmeling is the first name that springs to mind for me, because he was subjected to the ultimate moral test. He was a German megastar at the time of teh holocausts, and he risked everything to help the Jews. The full extent of what he did gets significantly understated, because he kept quiet about it even after the war. There were werewolf units hunting collaborators well into the 1950s in Germany. On a side note Herman Goering's brother Albert Goering is a fascinating figure. He loved his brother, but he did all kinds of crazy **** to save Jews.
I think of Arguello and Joe Louis having similarities both in the ring and outside it. They were both two of the most beautiful punchers to watch. Not the fastest feet, but they placed them well and had great offensive arsenals. They were great sportsmen and respectful of others. Outside the ring, they had issues with addiction, depression, and admitted to putting hands on women. They were also known to be very generous and helpful of other people. I think both were decent guys at heart with flaws and personal demons.
Except for guys like...I dont want to sya his name because I know his brother is extremely nice but... A guy from Texas who was a Middleweight in the 80s if you get my drift... And Edwin Valero and sorts of like that. By far and away the nicest of the celebrities ive met are boxers. If you want to talk mean spirited you need to look up basketball players. Many are arrogant and self absorbed. Most of the boxers are super nice.. most , not all, but most. I think they get the violence out of the system once they get out of that ring. And they do get into rings mostly on a daily basis, remember, we only get to see the finished product. The only one who gave me a bit of an attitude were Julio Cesar, Oscar and Evander. And even they still obliged with a handshake and autograph. In Oscar's case, I read on his book later, he was tired of dealing with Julio that entire tour and he admits in the book he was moody at that time of his life.
Genaro Hernandez. Literally unlocked a door to let me in out of the freezing cold once. Nicest guy, too.
Ken Norton was a pretty good guy I think. Sure, he was married a few times but I’ve not seen or heard a bad word said about him.