Boxers with hard to explain power - a theory

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by freelaw, Sep 26, 2023.

  1. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

    Oct 16, 2019
    Exactly, I always thought it was a really smart way to still score one punch ko’s even if you’re not a natural big hitter. Surprised more guys don’t take that type of approach.
  2. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

    Jul 31, 2018
    It’s something you’re born with that only those guys can understand. Its just a combination of your body anatomy from the length of your arms , width of shoulders etc.. all these things that give you specifically mechanical leverage and then the natural muscle strength to generate explosive power.

    It’s a genetics/physics thing rather than mental.
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  3. freelaw

    freelaw Boxing Addict Full Member

    Nov 17, 2007
    That's a solid post again.

    Yeah, what I'm talking about is different from fight and flight responce, and we will never get scientific confirmation of it probably.

    Just from self reflection though, for what it's worth... I'm pretty big and powerful and find it very hard to imagine hitting anyone full force, especially bare fisted. I have punched people in different situations, but used maybe 60% of what I'm capable of, broke a nose, cause a swelling etc. I know a well timed haymaker equals risking the other guy's life and I'm just not doing that, even if I kinda decided to, I think.

    Just that thought, that moment of hesitation would take away something from the power. I would never seriously consider trying to do that to someone in sparring or a boxing fight and that IS because I'm not ok with hurting people that did nothing wrong to me. Something in me pushes the brake and I can't control it, it seems.

    But I suspect real hate would maybe enable me to let my fists really fly, like someone ruining my life maliciously for years and luaghing along the way kind of hate. I know it's not the same as psychopathy/sociopathy, but it may involve that internal disinhibition in the same way.

    Of that it is a real thing and that it does matter - I'm personally fairly sure, no matter what anyone says.
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  4. freelaw

    freelaw Boxing Addict Full Member

    Nov 17, 2007
    What does it have to do with I said? I have to keep reminding myself boxing forums are full of pseudo confident, aggressive dumbasses.
  5. freelaw

    freelaw Boxing Addict Full Member

    Nov 17, 2007
    That's that actually, essentially what I believe in too. We can agree after all, it seems.
  6. monaim

    monaim Member Full Member

    Dec 4, 2022
    The one thing I've seen them all have in common is that they have big forearms and huge asses.
  7. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Jul 1, 2010
    It's genetics and technique.

    You can be heavy handed but if you lack the technique you're hitting nothing but air and will lose any advantage you have.

    Slow these videos down and look at the technique; hips, shoulders, pivot, travel.

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  8. SmackDaBum

    SmackDaBum TKO7 Full Member

    Nov 22, 2014
    Sorry mate! I agree everything is my fault.
  9. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I'm your huckleberry, that's just mah game Full Member

    Sep 5, 2016
    Genetics, mentality and technique. It's not just one thing.
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  10. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

    Jul 31, 2018
    Yeah but we see plenty and plenty of guys with technique and mentality but just no or little damage.

    And theres guys with just genetic power smashing opponents effortlessly. I just think no amount of training or technique can give you that type of power some people are just born with.
  11. JunlongXiFan

    JunlongXiFan Boxing Addict Full Member

    Aug 9, 2020
    I punch the hardest at my gym because I

    1. Swing completely through. My goal is to send my punch "through their head".

    2. Turn my heel slightly before the arm is released, not at the same time.

    3. Use the forward momentum from my jab, which I step with, to add onto the force of my cross.

    4. Stay completely loose until right before the punch lands.

    People don't understand, and they say they're doing it the same as me, but I watch them and they're not. They do it on the bag, but not in sparring or on the mitts. Pay attention to little nuances in guys' techniques. It can make a huge difference.
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  12. Diagoras

    Diagoras Member Full Member

    May 25, 2012
    Even after suffering a hand injury in training that delayed his championship bout for two months, Naoya Inoue showed no ill effects, just as his father knew it would.

    Shingo Inoue, also his son’s coach, looked on as “The Monster” destroyed Stephen Fulton to become the WBC and WBO super bantamweight champion on July 25 in Tokyo.

    “I didn’t worry about my son at all because I knew he has what it takes,” said Shingo. “He grew stronger during those two and a half months.”

    Indeed, Inoue showed no signs of ring rust as he dominated the bout from the early rounds.

    He delivered a constant stream of stiff left jabs to the body and jaw to keep his opponent off balance and unable to counter or take the offensive.

    “Fulton was taller and had a longer reach, so I’ve trained to keep him at the proper distance,” said Inoue.

    Inoue initially thought he didn’t have to knock out Fulton to win but could box his way to a decision victory.

    However, he changed his mind when he heard one fan impatiently shout: “C’mon, finish him now!”

    “It went exactly as I’d trained for,” said Inoue about the moment in the eighth round when he threw a devastating right cross to the jaw after a left jab to the body followed by a crunching left hook as Fulton fell to the canvas.

    The match was postponed after Inoue injured his hand during training in March.

    Though Inoue was willing to fight in May as scheduled, the president of his gym, Hideyuki Ohashi, immediately decided to delay the bout, judging the injury would not allow Inoue to properly prepare himself.

    As it turned out, the postponement gave Inoue a great advantage.

    While recovering from the hand injury, Inoue trained his lower body, practiced punching with the other hand and focused on mental training.

    “When Naoya was shadowboxing, I could almost see Fulton in front of him,” said Shingo. “He had an increasingly clear image of Fulton in his mind and it looked as if he was actually fighting his opponent at our gym.”

    By the time he resumed sparring in May, Inoue was in peak condition.

    “He was in a great, stable condition like I’d never seen before,” said Shingo of his son. “I was convinced he would win.”
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  13. HyperionAlpha

    HyperionAlpha Member Full Member

    Aug 14, 2023
    there is a line in the old movie "Somebody up there likes me." stars Paul Newman. about Rocky Graziano. A coach tells him he should go pro....make boxing work for him..."You've got something all my other fighters don't....HATE...don't know why it's there...but when it goes into that right hand watch out." paraphrasing. so...somewhat similar to what you are saying. apologize in advance if every one wants to throw stones at me but here goes. when I grew up...I had to fight...a lot..grew up in state institutions. had an average temperament when I went the time I was 11...was filled with HATE. I'm telling you helped me ko a lot of people. my two cents.
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  14. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I'm your huckleberry, that's just mah game Full Member

    Sep 5, 2016
    Yeah, it's generally the little things in technique that make the difference. No one ever talks about this "God-given power" BS in a sport like tennis to describe a player's killer serve; only in the clown show that is boxing, where half the fanbase seem to be perennially stuck in the 1950s.
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  15. Hotep Kemba

    Hotep Kemba Member Full Member

    Apr 19, 2023
    What do you mean "hard to explain?" Do you think punching power is determined by how much of a Sports Illustrated model a fighter looks like? Hell, most power punchers throughout history DON'T even look like Mike Tyson body wise, so using him as an example doesn't even make sense.

    It's not like you have fast twitch physiques or punching power muscle insertion physiques, so I have no idea what you think power punches "look" like, but they come in all shapes and sizes. Not hard to explain at all.

    Why do martial arts fans always ask the strangest questions and give the strangest answers.