Boxers with infamous telegraphs?

If we're talking about telegraping, and not a bad habit ( Holmes not moving his head when he jabbed) fouling ( Norris's over aggression, Goleta hitting low)
No one I've seen on the pro level and ranked got away with telegraphed punches more than Dontey Wilder. (Pehaps the level of the competition he faced overall, how poor it was / is)
He hitched his right hand, and through it wide, something that would've gotten him ko'ed early by ranked competition years ago
He also pushed his jab, and dropped it , he used it to momentarily distract his opponent's, not as a tool or weapon in itself .
A average fighter with very good countering skills, like Jimmy Young , Chris Byrd etc would've schooled him.

 

Razor Ruddock would telegraph his punches. When he was trained by Floyd Patterson, FP thought that this was what was holding him back from the championship and tried to train it out of him by having him throw his punches in a more loose and limber way.

 

I remember watching some of Ruddock's fight, and at certain points it felt like he had all the assistance and coaching that any man could ever need, but he just wouldn't listen. He had Patterson, Griffith, and someone else I can't remember. It was also funny to watch the fight between him and Smith and see Frazier in Bonecrusher's corner.

 

Not true in every case, but often when a fighter keeps changing trainers and managers, it tells us more about the fighter than the trainers and managers.

Like they said: You meet one ******* on the street, you’ve met an *******. You meet assholes everywhere you go and everyone you meet is an *******, probably more likely that you’re the *******.

If a guy can’t take to coaching and he keeps looking for someone who’s going to tell him what he wants to hear, eventually he’ll find someone who will take the check and tell him what he wants to hear. But he’s probably not going to learn anything.

Go to the training forum sometime and you’ll see guys who literally just started boxing telling the world how the coach doesn’t know anything. I’m thinking, ‘he probably knows more than you,’ haha. ‘If you just started, you’re the one who doesn’t know anything.’

We used to say, ‘take the cotton out of your ears and put it in your mouth.’ In other words, shut up and listen. Every coach can tell you stories about figthers who want to tell the coach how to do it … well, they should open a gym and become a coach if they know it all, lol.

 

Even in my short amount of time boxing I've seen plenty of kids who've been boxing long before I've been interested and they still seem so uneducated. You'll never be the hotshot you think you are.

 

I hear coaches say this all the time and the training forum here underscores it — if they don’t hear what they want to hear in the gym (which isn’t what they need to hear), they’ll post video online and find complete anonymous strangers and listen to their feedback … ‘you’re doing great, your coach don’t know ****, you shoudl leave that gym’ lol.

Yeah, the guy who sees you every day, the one who’s going to probably work your corner if you ever fight and invest time in your and tries to tell you what you need to work on doesn’t know anything; The guy who watches 30 seconds of you on social media or a forum, that’s who you need to listen to, haha.

 

That's why I try not to talk too much about fighting with guys over the internet, it just seems so dumb. If you can't really see a fighter in person, and you've got limited footage and information on em, I don't see the point.
If I tell you that I beat up a dude 80 lbs heavier than me in sparring, that tells you NOTHING. It doesn't say anything about my skill, it doesn't say anything about my power or my chin, and it definitely doesn't tell you if I'm lying. Unsubstantiated claims are the backbone of your everyday Zelenoff.