Boxers with overrated power

Yeah I was just trying to see how you rated him :good

As for today, I think skill has regressed massively in recent times, hence less 'one punch K.O artists'.

 

Vitali.

He is overrated in general imo.

 

Isn't more to do with the fact that top level fighers rarely get caught with their chin hanging in the air

Take Pac Vs Hatton though

Hatton left himself wide open and got sparked

The likes of Marquez, De La Hoya, while getting hit, aint as likely to get caught flush , with their chins in the breeze

Most boxers can KO out one punch if they connect right and the opponent is unprepared for the punch

 

doesn't a swooping left hook on valuev not come to mind? punching upwards a foot and wobbling him badly against someone who had never been hurt.:hi:

 

Never been hurt atsch

 

That's pure conjecture.

It's also worth noting that Haye was probably the only ''puncher'' that Valuev ever fought. He was very well looked after by Sauerland/King.

Ruiz beat him the first time and nearly did the second time, Holyfield did just as good a job as David did.

 

:yep

That means that Valuev has been hurt by every puncher he has ever fought.

 

But then it also means that you are calling Haye a puncher so the rest is irrelevant.

 

I'm a Haye fan but this is 100% spot on :deal. I do rate his power, obvioulsy very good at Cruiserweight and good at Heavy too considering he was the smaller man in his fights there but his finishing was shocking. I always thought that, from Thompson to Barrett to Ruiz. His only composed one was vs Audley which hardly counts because Harrison would have been knocked over by a breath of wind after the 1st big shot that landed.

He obviously landed some monsters vs Enzo but when he actually got him in the corner for the kill, they were only really glancing blows tbh. It was Enzo's poor resistance which was the main contributor in the stoppage after the first monstrous right haye landed, hardly a composed flurry from Haye IMO.

 

I don't even think the Harrison one was that great tbh.... he was almost hanging off Audley with one arm and teeing off on him with the other.

Of the finishes I've seen from him I'd say the Maccarinelli one was the best.

Some fighters aren't that dangerous when they're hurt, which I suppose you might have a feel for if you are in there with them. Either David knew it or gambled anyway and won each time.

It's odd why he fought that way to be honest, given that he was usually really calm in the ring, even when losing round after round to Wlad.

 

ok smart arse, badly hurt/wobbled

 

Booth never stopped him from rushing in and wailing away. That Enzo KO could have been a stone-cold highlight reel classic if Haye had stepped in and measured the shots he landed.

The Mormeck one was his best, IMO. He showed real technical polish against a stylistic nightmare for his own approach. He worked the body, picked his shots carefully, and placed them perfectly when he got openings. The sequence he finished the Frenchman with was exceptional.

But unfortunately he stopped working on his technique after that, it seems. He could have had Barret and Ruiz out of there much faster if he’d taken his time and kept on with the straight shots. Soon as he started winging shots, his form just went.

I believe, 100%, if he’d used his jab and fired down the middle he’d have beaten Wlad.

 

biggest problem today in boxing is the 'don't hurt him brigade', a lot of trainers are into the 'sweet science' kinda boxing,they forget the power and concentrate on the technical side.

in the 40's 50's 60's 70's 80' 90's power was a BIG thing(think back)hunting the target,being aggressive,making the other miss,not by running backwards but moving there heads,bobbing and weaving,putting momentum into there hooks and uppercuts,moving the shoulder to throw the right or left.
imo to much of the running away so not too take a shot and not enough of the making the other man miss to set up a shot is making the 1 punch ko a rarity .

 

Don't agree with Haye. Clearly still one of the biggest punchers in the heavyweight division, even more so at cruiserweight.

Froch for sure