Saw the thread Saw you'd posted Knew what you were going to say This was the first post I read 27 tried, 27 got KTFO :deal
Back in the day one punch would suffice ;-) Technique as a whole is near it's lowest ebb IMO (across the board) some obviously incredible guys but little coming up by the looks of it. I'll wait it out.
Yes, DeMarco was absolutely sparked sat on his stool. Mosquera and Pitalua were ***** slapped to the deck I agree.
Manny says it's to do with poor padwork and fighters punching to score and not hurt. It's pretty true IMO. I remember guys getting sparked! nowadays people go look at this KO and i'm seeing a guy fall down in installments. Back when i was a kid it was Timber!.
I agree though not with his terminology. As I say, one man finished with a single shot who was barely stirring and that was the chinny European level Gurov. People are easily pleased nowadays IMO. 'He wobbled the giant'! If he was a genuinely massive puncher he'd have floored him. Also, he has displayed some of the shittest most negative tactics seen in recent years so I'm happy to downplay his attributes
I agree. There's no follow through and commitment to punches without going off balance. Tommy Hearns and Joe Louis had the best right hands in the history of boxing, and it looked like the opponents were shot by a sniper in the crowd.
Not when he's about the only guy to ever stagger him and people are calling his power average. How many have put Ruiz down? Not like I'm saying he's Tua.
Steward is probably a good authority on this, having nurtured several right hand bangers down the years. It's the ams that are the problem, I'm sure I read an article where Roach was appointed as a kind of assistant to the USA team for the next games and was shocked at how bad the best ones were. A far cry from the teams of the 70's and 80's, a fighter like Whitaker would probably have beaten whoever was the British champion on his pro debut. Hell, these days it would be even higher, European class probably.
And who has Valuev fought with any kind of power? Ruiz was shot(40), hand't won against a decent fighter in 6 years Oh yea, A shot Golota dropped Ruiz
Why does it have to be single shots though? That just shows more how **** Gurov is than how powerful a punch it was. Haye clearly has genuine knockout power regardless of how poor a finisher he might be. But there is definitely a lack of definitive knockouts these days. It's down to a number of things. Like Mand said, the overuse of padwork may well be a factor. As is the increasing number of weak stoppages rather than proper knockouts as well as it being a pretty weak era. Another thing to note might be that boxing technique in general has improved so most boxers can defend better than they used to. I rewatched Cotto/Margarito earlier and even though that was a really convincing stoppage win by nowadays standards, about a minute after it was stopped, Cotto power walked back to his dressing room with no assistance at all. Hardly what you'd associate from someone who been getting pummelled with cement for the last half hour.