Boxing 2020 and 2021 hall of fame

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Mendoza, Oct 27, 2020.


  1. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Thanks. I’m losing track of how things work
     
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  2. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I’m kind of up in the air about Tim Bradley. What do the rest of you think ? Should he get in ?
     
  3. ChrisJS

    ChrisJS Boxing Addict Full Member

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    IMO no. Good fighter but not HOF worthy. Caught Marquez at 40 as a welterweight and Pacquaio was a total gift. Not sure the rest warrants HOF consideration given some of the fighters who haven’t made it.
     
  4. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    yeah that’s what I was kinda thinking as well. Some of his decision wins were dubious and against aged foes. He was a good fighter with a decent record but it’s hard to make a solid case for him being inducted.
     
  5. McGrain

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    I think i'm right in saying he'd have lost to Provodnikov if the referee hadn't missed the knockdown and the Marquez fight was arguable too. I scored it a draw.

    Hard to think of a recent fighter who has benefited more on cards than Bradley.
     
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  6. HolDat

    HolDat Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Some of these other guys on the list need to be inducted ASAP.
     
  7. ChrisJS

    ChrisJS Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Canelo says hi.

    But yes, I agree with you here. I was always surprised the Marquez fight was painted as some masterpiece. It was a very even fight vs. a 40 year old Marquez.
     
  8. Mendoza

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    Good catch, 2021. Will 5 make it? Or just 3 from the modern era?
     
  9. Mendoza

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    There are many good fighters on the list to choose from, did Rafael say why he prefers Cotto or Bradley over Toney?

    I don't a think positive tests will bar Toney, from making the hall of fame someday. after all Shane Mosely got in the boxing hall of fame.

    The tier one picks to me are:

    Wlad
    Mayweather
    Ward

    Below them is a pretty close grouping of

    Cotto
    Toney
    Michalczewski
    Hatton
    Bradley
    Tarver

    If anyone has waited their turn its Michalczewski.
     
  10. Mendoza

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    It used to be a 5 year wait, now it's only 3. Go figure. The modern era includes retired boxers whose last bout was no earlier than 1989 ( Used to be 1943 )
     
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  11. Dubblechin

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    Floyd is a no-brainer.

    Pretty impressive that Mayweather beat four guys on that current list - Cotto, Hatton, Corrales and Hernandez ... beat four guys already in the Hall (Oscar, Shane, Marquez and Gatti) ... and even more guys he did beat will certainly be first ballot entries when they retire (like Manny and Canelo).

    I wonder if 'anyone' Wlad beat will get to the Hall of Fame? Rahman probably will someday. Not anytime soon, though.
     
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  12. steve1990

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    No love for Vinny Pazienza or Antonio Tarver.
     
  13. AwardedSteak863

    AwardedSteak863 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Michalczewski has an interesting case. Lots of defenses and he was a lineal champ. It really is a shame he never fought Jones or even Tarver. All he really needed was a career defining win. Henry Maske is another guy that had the skill and talent to be in the hall but again, he didn't have that career defining win. Hence Virgil Hill is in and he isn't.
     
  14. Bukkake

    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think the HOF has really ****ed it up with these new timelines!

    You have someone like Jack 'Kid' Berg (last fight '45) in the "Modern" category - while Yoko Gushiken (first fight '74) is considered an "Oldtimer". Gushiken wasn't even born until 1955 - 10 years after Berg had his last fight! How does this make any sense?
     
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  15. Dubblechin

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    In truth, there isn't much difference between Dariusz and Wlad.

    Dariusz made 23 title defenses and unified as many belts as Wlad did. But he also won titles in two divisions and beat a Hall of Famer, which Wlad did not. Neither fought the next best fighter in their division (Vitali for Wlad, Roy Jones for Dariusz).

    But Wlad seems to be a lock, and Dariusz doesn't. That's the difference between heavyweight and light heavyweight, I guess.