Boxing ABC: Andrade, Bute, Corruption

That's if he gets the rematch.

 

Yeah,it shouldn't have called it but Bute did connect a punch and Andrade went down.Bernard didn't KD Tarver but got a KD,Chico KD over Casa III shouldn't have been called either but it did.If a punch connects and the guy goes down it's a KD

 

It's more than likely it will happen.Larouche said so,it's logicall,it makes sense,money.American tv will buy.Bute vs Andrade 24/7

 

A good ref would have given an 8 count to Bute with 30 seconds to do. What would have happened after that? The probabilities are that with 20 seconds to go, after a 10 seconds break, Bute would have stayed on his feet and won the bout. The ref also could have stopped the fight with 30 seconds to go. That would have been controversial to. He chose a third solution: to let the fight go. Bute got down, got up, which was the only thing he had to do, according to the rules. Now, I know the rules don't change the perception even Bute's fans have, the one that Bute was down and Andrade up. That's why we need a rematch.

I was at the fight. A lot of people talk of the biased ref. First thing, Wright was a friend of Howard Grant, Andrade's coach. So the ref bias is not so clear here. It's not as simple as: he's from Montreal, he's biased.

He let things go for both men. Andrade was headbutting, elbowbutting, anythingbutting, he did not get any warning for that. When Bute was holding, Andrade was holding Bute's arm also, hitting uppercuts with the other hand. It was almost good for him, because those uppercuts were scoring and the holding was tiring Bute. More, when the ref was calling the breaks, Andrade was always coming back too fast. No warning for that neither, but that may explain the end, when Wright went to his corner to tell him to stay there. By the way, I was live and I can assure you Andrade was near the center of the ring when the ref warned him. Anyway, Bute was already up and the fight was already over.

I took three days to write about this fight, because I was kind of shocked at the end. I was also thinking the end was not correct. But after reading the rules, watching the tapes (including a shot by a cell phone), thinking about it, my conclusion is that Bute made a mistake in the last two rounds. He should have saved more energies for the end. I'm sorry for Andrade' fans, because the situation is very hard to take for them. But even if the ref had continued the count without going to Andrade's corner, Bute had already won. But as I said, the boxing fans perception is not the same that the rules and we need a rematch.

 

To make it short - we are discussing what we think(you and I), and since none of us thought it was a legit KD - lets not go there then...

 

A 24/7 will be entertaining. Bute running up in the mountains then fainting since he doesnt have good stamina and Andrade getting hit in the face with a baseball bat for the **** of it when they get drunk. Aaahhh, good tv.

 

If what you are saying is correct then there is no need for a rematch.

 

You have fair points but a rematch is in order since their is conterversy in this fight.

 

Disagree, they need a rematch. It looks like they might do it too.

 

Bute is also a Canadian permanent resident. I think we can share him.

 

If they feel the win was legit, then there is no need. If it wasn't then Bute should just hand over the belt.

 

Kessler was also very tired after his fight against Andrade. Bute has no stamina problem. It's just Andrade is a beast! Stieglitz was drained way before Bute. I think we should give credit to Andrade instead of bashing Bute.

 

Agree to disagree then since we have different views.

 

It was a joke bro. :thumbsup

 

The fans want a rematch. That means media attention, money, etc. And with a clean win, Bute has a lot to fight Andrade again. We'll see. Anyway, the IBF could decide to keep Andrade as the mandatory, which will lead to a rematch. First, he will fight Larsen, to respect an old contract with Sauerland.

I don't like the end of the fight, but I still like Bute. He was only at his 23rd fight. He still has things to learn and time to do it.