Boxing as a full-time job

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by Canello, Dec 9, 2010.


  1. Canello

    Canello Member Full Member

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    Is their any full-time pros on this forum? I'm trying to get an understanding as to how many fighters become full time pros,( I know the real gifted ones who have great amateur records and make the the olympics etc are all managed from day one of their pro career and looked after every step of the way) I want to know if theirs any fighters out their who are talented but have had to do it abit tougher in order to pave the way for themselves, maybe didn't have the big amateur backround, the financial backing but are training full time chasing the dream..?
     
  2. Canello

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    Also if anyone has any stories about fighters making it to a top level while still working a full or part time job e.g micky ward.. Boxing is a tough sport and while alot of fighters have the talent, not everyone is managed and promoted to the fighters own best intrest.
    I do like inspirational boxing stories and I'll start by adding one which occured a few hours ago.. Garth wood koed Anthony mundine the former middle and super middleweight world champion in the 5th round!
    Let me tell you abit about Garth wood.. He was a former rugby player in the nrl ( national rugby legue, Australia) switched to boxing only a few years ago had a few pro boxing fights he's nothing too special, he got invited into the contender tv series Australia as a late substitute for an injured fighter, he was about 6-1 at that stage and no one knew him. He beat a couple of world rated fighters and ended up winning the whole tournament!!
    Part of the winning prize was to take on Anthony mundine and a $250000 payday he did and knocked him out! A 10-1 underdog!All while he ran a cleaning business! Just goes to show what alot of hard work and self belief can do
     
  3. Finesse74

    Finesse74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    All the pro boxers I know work 2nd jobs or are full time students.
    I only know one full time pro. His name is Raytona Whitfield.
     
  4. Canello

    Canello Member Full Member

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    Was he a full time pro from day one? Also Does he have any sponsors?
     
  5. gumbo2176

    gumbo2176 Active Member Full Member

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    canello, it is almost impossible to be a full time pro boxer early in a career and not work for a living to pay your bills. In most sports, sponsorship only comes with proven success, and a young pro with few fights is not a proven commodity worth risking investor capitol.

    Now, if a guy is in his late teens, early 20's and still lives at home and trains daily and his parents are footing the bill for his existence, I guess it's possible to not have a paying job and train full time. That said, if I'm that parent, I'd want to see positive results or your ass is getting a job to pay your bills. Dreams are one thing, reality is another.
     
  6. Dish

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    the professional boxers I know ALL work full time jobs in addition to boxing. welding, carpenter, physical trainer, etc... I don't know any pro that can only box.

    One of my dawgs had a 10 round co-main event fight. He was paid $3,000. woooo
     
  7. Primate

    Primate Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The closest I know to full time pros are guys who work in the gym, teaching classes, running fitness groups, etc.
     
  8. billy boy balbo

    billy boy balbo New Member Full Member

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    majority of pros that i know are either on the dole or doing trades.always amazes me how most of them are though,like they missed alot of schooling because they thought they were going to be great pros
     
  9. Canello

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    Do you think a fighter can still develop he's career to a good internatinal level ( given ofcourse that he has the talent) while working a fulltime day job? You don't think it will effect the fighters progress?
    Obviously I know it's one thing to dream but you have to pay the bills, but if you've had a dozen pro-fights ,are doing well and are fighting twelve rounders would you not think it's a good idea to just focus on boxing despite the big paycut? You might be just around the corner from a big break
     
  10. gumbo2176

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    I think it is possible, but not an easy thing to do. Face it, the vast majority of boxers weren't born into the upper class of our society where their career and educational options are pretty much wide open. With limited education, these guys won't get white collar jobs that pay well so they take what they can and most of that is going to be in the line of hard work.

    If the guy is working long, hard hours, then yes, it can take a toll on his desire to get up in the morning and do roadwork, go to work all day, then head to the gym for an evening session of more hard work. One thing is for certain--------you don't get to be an good boxer that can put in 10 rounds without a lot of hard work.

    As for your statement about having a dozen or so fights, doing well and having some 12 rounders under his belt------I think that is more fantasy than reality for the average Joe with no extensive amateur or international level background. However, IF a fighter did get to that level that quick, people with money would likely take notice and some offers could roll in so that fighter could train full time and not kill himself working a full time job and trying to maintain a good training schedule.
     
  11. Canello

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    I agree with you on most of what you said although I'm definately for having an extensive amateur career because the experience and development is priceless, but say that a fighter started he's career abit late in terms of age or even not having many amateur fights, I still think they can have a succesfull professional career and reach a high level e.g Nate cambell startedboxing at 24 had 30 or so amateur fights before turning pro at 27 and he did quite well.
    I guess for a good fighter to make a career out of it( not talking about top amateurs) he has to do it tough keep winning till you get noticed and defeat some decent fighters and maybe that will get you the bigger paydays,sponsors and the right management team.
     
  12. gumbo2176

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    canello, I don't know where to find the numbers, but I'm pretty certain most of today's fighters that are doing well did have a pretty strong amateur background and started boxing at a fairly young age.

    I don't feel it is impossible for an older, less experienced guy to break into the pro fight game and do well for himself, but it think it is highly improbable and the odds are stacked against him.

    Think about it from a trainer's point of view. He has a gym with a couple good pro prospects. They have decent amateur experience, know the routine of what it takes, how to work out properly, know the basics and then some. Then a guy a few years older comes into the same gym, with little to no experience and says "I want to be a pro, and I need someone to teach me everything." Chances are, the trainer will pass unless that person shows something very special that makes him take notice.

    But, hey, if your dream is to try to do something in boxing, then give it your best shot and hope someone takes notice.
     
  13. pahapoisu

    pahapoisu Superman! Full Member

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    Go to Dibella entertainemt homepage and right on the front page is the story how Sergio Martinez made it. It took him a loong time to get where he is.
     
  14. Canello

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    I agree with you Totally, I'm not trying to argue that starting late or not having too much amateur experience is a good formula to success because it's not, though I believe there's a small chance if talented I still think you can make it to the top,But the big amateur career and experience is the way to go. However Not everyone is suited to the amateurs and are advised to turn pro due to their style.
    Me personally I started in my teens joined a gym at 17 had good success as an amateur had about 25 fights for 6 losses have had a few pro fights and am undefeated, I do work fulltime, I balance my training and work well and things are going good, if they keep going well Id love to train fulltime, but that's just a dream for now. You seem to know your stuff, what's your advice?
     
  15. gumbo2176

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    Well, with things going the way you are describing, it sounds like you know what you want and are having success getting it. Congrats on the unblemished pro record. I'm assuming you are fighting pre-lims in the 4-6 round range with an eye on going after 8-10 rounders against better competition sometime in the near future. You start doing that and have the same success you are currently having, someone just may step up and notice you as a talent worth taking a chance on in terms of sponsorship so you can train full time.

    Here's some food for thought. Not knowing what you do for a living or your earning potential, have you ever thought of becoming a fireman. Most major cities that have a paid fire dept. have a work schedule of 24 on and 48 off, or something similar. My city has a 24/48 so if you go to work at 7 a.m. Monday, you get off no later than 7 a.m. Tuesday and don't report back until 7 a.m. on Thursday. That is a job that would allow you to have a good bit of training time without doing the daily grind. Even when at the fire station, you could work out to some degree with rope jumping, hitting the bags, exercising abs etc. I believe the starting salary for new recruits in my city is close to $40K a year. If that is not enough money, you could work part time on your time off to pull in needed income and maybe find a job not as physically demanding so you can train like you want. Just something to think about.