Boxing conspiracies

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Martbowski, Mar 10, 2009.


  1. Martbowski

    Martbowski The Fight Show Full Member

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    Basically I'm doing an investigation into match fixing, and general dodgy dealings within sport, and am asking you lot, the heroes of East Side Boxing to help me out on the boxing front.

    I'm looking for any stories within boxing that are controversial - I know by reading this board every day that a lot goes on within boxing, but I'm looking for the real juicy stuff - and as famous and obvious as possible.

    Anything from famous duckings (didn't Tyson once pay NOT to fight Lewis?) to throwing fights (the Michael Gomez fight that's on youtube) to anything really - basically anything a touch dodgy, or untoward.

    If any of you could link to some reputable sites and that it'd be helpful, and quotes by people to do with the sport would also be really really good.

    Hope some of you can help, and that this thread has been made clear.

    Cheers lads.
     
  2. Gaz S

    Gaz S Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Looking into the various sanctioning bodies will find you a whole treasure trove of dodgy goings on!

    There was a huge scandal several years ago with the then IBF president Bob Lee, selling rankings and accepting bribes from promoters, for one example. I'm sure if you search the net you'll find plenty of info and back story there on that one.

    Oh, and who can forget the WBO moving Darrin Morris up from #7 to #5 in their super-middleweight rankings back in 2001 - after he had died!
     
  3. Lee Mc

    Lee Mc Boxing Addict banned

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    [url]http://www.thesweetscience.com/boxing-article/423/vanda-lism/[/url]
     
  4. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    Oscar "beating" Sturm was a shocker, a blatant fix IMO, to set up the Hopkins fight.
     
  5. rhinocoote

    rhinocoote mexican steamroller Full Member

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    wow,,,i'm glad i wasn't just me who saw the blatant winner.....lose!


    sturm was robbed!!!
     
  6. Lee Mc

    Lee Mc Boxing Addict banned

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    I had, like most people, Sturm win by a couple of rounds however I remember Boxing News and Boxing Monthly, I think, saying that De La Hoya won 115-113.

    Same as the Valuev vs Holyfield fight. Most of us who watched it on TV gave it to Holyfield whilst most journalists (all but 1 if I remember properly) gave it to Valuev...
     
  7. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    When the final bell went Oscar said to Sturm "congratulations, you won", when the decision was announced, Oscar didn't even smile, he just raised his hands and looked embarrassed. He is on record ad saying he lost the fight. I've always felt it was a set up, or karma, because Oscar got robbed in a couple of much bigger fights himself.
     
  8. rhinocoote

    rhinocoote mexican steamroller Full Member

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    if you are looking for dodgy stuff in the game, all you have to do is to look at the last prizefighter bill;
    i do not claim to be an expert in the game,,nor do i think that the judges or refs have an easy job in this format,,
    but i am 'obsessed' ,and have seen enough bills to know how a fight can be judged......
    betting seems to be more pronounced on these nights,and governing bodies have not as much need to be involved (no belts on the line).
    'Dilkes',,once given the decision to get to the final,,,had to find out that it was an apparent mistake on the scorecard!!@@
    without being too paranoid of a 'scam' ,i can't remember the last time that this happened in boxing,we just have to take mr hearns word for it,,can we look at the scorecard or is the large pile of betting winnings in the way????
     
  9. dwilson

    dwilson Guest

    Enzo Mc took a dive vs Haye is my favorite.
     
  10. D-MAC

    D-MAC Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Two that spring to mind:

    (1) Carlos Zarate v Lupe Pintor -

    143-142 Pintor
    143-142 Pintor
    145-133 Zarate

    Zarate won this one easy; two judges ****ed it up (ie: took the green).

    (2) Cristian Mijares v Carlos Navarro

    115-113 Mijares
    117-111 Mijares
    Judge Doug Tucker had it 120-108 to Navarro (ie: he won every round).

    Mijares won this one comfortably (i would agree with the 117-111 scorecard).
     
  11. D-MAC

    D-MAC Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Of course if we are talking dodgy as hell **** in the boxing world, then look no further than Danny Williams v Konstantin Airich.

    It doesn't get anymore dodgy than that fight:deal
     
  12. ishy

    ishy Loyal Member Full Member

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    [url]http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=980DE5D7173FF932A35751C0A9669C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=all[/url]

    [url]http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/nj/press/files/ibf0929_r.htm[/url]
     
  13. ishy

    ishy Loyal Member Full Member

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    The Lewis-Holyfield I scoring. Don King had that woman judge in his pocket.

    Some dodgy decisions Julio Cesar Chavez received e.g. A draw against Whittaker.
     
  14. Primadonna Kool

    Primadonna Kool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I remember as a kid, getting "Lennox Lewis's undistuped Truth Video"

    For Christmas..
     
  15. ishy

    ishy Loyal Member Full Member

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    The WBC/Graciano Rocchigiani issue.