Boxing decisions by Artifical Intelligence

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  1. box33

    box33 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Saw a couple of results, didn't look to good.
     
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  2. CleneloAnavarez

    CleneloAnavarez Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It gave great result for Castillo-Floyd and Lomachenko-Lopez.
     
  3. CleneloAnavarez

    CleneloAnavarez Well-Known Member Full Member

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    They absolutely are. "Effective aggression" cannot be defined without understanding "aggression" and "pressure".
    The only garbage that goes in is the footage.
     
  4. BCS8

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    Gosh, so Golovkin beat Canelo in their first two fights? Nobody saw that coming! Besides those of us with eyes, that is.
     
  5. BCS8

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    This is telling


    Alvarez Golovkin
    DeepStrike A.I. Stats 211 355
    ComputBox Live Clickers 202 234
     
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  6. JunlongXiFan

    JunlongXiFan 45-6 in Kirks Chmpionshp Boxing Predictions 2022 Full Member

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    What did it score them?
     
  7. JunlongXiFan

    JunlongXiFan 45-6 in Kirks Chmpionshp Boxing Predictions 2022 Full Member

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    Please have it score Ioka-Franco, Jabba's makers
     
  8. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Aggression without being effective isn’t a scoring marker. Pressure isn’t either.

    So including those in AI for scoring is going to guarantee bad results.

    You might as well create an AI to score figure skating and put ‘cooking’ and ‘bicycling’ into the equation.
     
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  9. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Point 2, 3,and 4 all lead to landing more punches so why not just score based on number 1? If you are the ring general you are landing more punches, if you are the effective aggressor then you are landing more punches. It seems kind of redundant.
     
  10. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Because there’s more to professional boxing than just counting punches.
     
  11. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's not about counting, it's about how effective they are. The point still stands.
     
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  12. Saintpat

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    No it doesn’t.

    You said, TWICE, and I quote, “landing more punches.”

    That’s not how effective they are, that’s counting.

    This is a senseless discussion. You are touting an AI ‘solution’ to scoring professional boxing when the points the post says are part of the AI construction are not the four points upon which boxing is scored. Which means GIGO.
     
  13. BCS8

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    The "four points" are subjective garbage especially when 'effective aggression' and 'ring generalship' are involved.

    Case in point, the two Golovkin / Canelo fights.

    In #1 Golovkin lands more punches, forces Canelo back and in any reasonable metric, wins the fight. Yet Canelo is given credit for "ring generalship" and he somehow gets a draw. In #2 Golovkin fights more off the backfoot, lands even more punches and he is not given credit for ring generalship, but Canelo is credited for 'aggression' as though the parameters have magically changed.

    The AI scoring merely shows the truth: that Golovkin greatly outlanded Canelo and landed more both going forwards and going backwards.
     
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  14. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Boxing scoring is by necessity and by its nature subjective.

    If you don’t like the four points on which fights are scored because they don’t give you the winner you want, so be it. You might think some Olympic diver or gymnast did better than the one who won, but they have criteria for which they judge.

    If you start with ‘this method agreed with me’ you’re looking at it ass-backward. I’m sure if you look through all her scorecards you’ll find fights where you agree with Adelaide Byrd’s scoring, but that doesn’t make her a good judge.
     
  15. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm not even talking about AI.

    If a fighter does not meet the criteria for point number 1 then how can they claim to be the ring general?
     
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