Boxing Fans, can you admit MMA has some better things about it?

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by Caelum, Jun 13, 2012.


  1. Ali_

    Ali_ Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The size of the gloves isn't an issue unless you are in a boxing match where it becomes an issue and not because of 'defense' but because of the impact of punches thrown.

    If you are training to be a boxer you shouldn't banking on the size of your gloves as a part of your defense as a combatant. That's just silly.
     
  2. devon

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    At the gym i go to at least we used the gloves to block a lot. Just turning your hand and putting it in the way of the punch can block it.
     
  3. Ali_

    Ali_ Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes, I know what you are referring to. I've done it before in the gym.
    However its not a primary defensive mechanic in the ring and you shouldn't be banking on it as a safety tactic.

    The size of the glove shouldn't be beneficial to your defense.
    If you indeed want to use your boxing skill's outside of the ring your defense should be good in a situation where you have your bare hands. You can still palm punches in a real fight but it's only a split second -if that- of deflection.

    I'm not saying that it's a bad thing. It's not. In the ring if it helps you. It's a good thing. It's just not really anything to bank on.
     
  4. devon

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    How come you know so much are you a trainer or just been in a lot of fights.
     
  5. Francis75

    Francis75 FAB 4 Full Member

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    I agree completely.:good
     
  6. LoRd_inFamousX1

    LoRd_inFamousX1 Lord of the Square Rings Full Member

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    I watch a lot of MMA but I still like boxing better. I do like the submission aspect of MMA though.
     
  7. Ali_

    Ali_ Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I have been in a few scuffles, but I boxed while in high school and practiced kung fu as well.
    I'm not posing as a expert.
    I just know what I know.
     
  8. ufoalf

    ufoalf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is hogwash.
     
  9. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    The fight either goes to the ground, which I respect but am not entertained by, or turns into a really shitty boxing match with some random kicks and spinning back-fists thrown in here and there. Those are the reasons I much prefer boxing.
     
  10. Caelum

    Caelum Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Have to disagree. Just because it changed doesn't mean it shouldn't go back to the original intent. ESPECIALLY since Boxing is a part of MMA. Boxing is a part of "Martial Arts." MMA guys are learning boxing and then have to adjust it to their sport...so why not just have boxing revert back to its original intent?

    It can bring back the fans to because boxing will be more exciting.

    But other than that, YES, MMA is more geared towards actual fighting even though UFC has gotten away from the original intent set forth by the Gracie Family when they started. but something about legal issues and people being pussified in our current society forced a changed to make it a "legit" sport.
     
  11. Caelum

    Caelum Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well they do take that into account because they become accustomed to what they are wearing. Just like MMA fighters take it into account what they have on their hands and know they don't have the glove size to defend the same as a boxer who is wearing 10 oz gloves.

    Smaller gloves make you fight differently. Not all, but some take direct advantage of bigger gloves. And not having bigger gloves prevents you from using it as a crutch. Similar to what people say about Head-Gear and the good and bad uses. There was a reason why D'Amato didn't allow Patterson and Tyson to rely on Head-gear and only used it close to a fight to prevent cuts.

    Bring back smaller gloves and stop destroying the original intent of the sport. I'm only asking for 6oz gloves...not leather straps...or leather straps with brace-knuckles and/or spikes like the Greeks and Romans did.
     
  12. Clydebank Blitz

    Clydebank Blitz Don't Be Scared Homie Full Member

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    I was a big "MMA is all grappling" supporter for ages, but Nick Diaz really brought me into MMA more and through that, I realized that UFC 9 times out of 10 isn't a big grappling match.

    Someone posted a thread saying Mayweather is boring. MMA is boring in the same way that May is. Sure, theres grappling, like May defends, but if you have a respect for that aspect of it, what's the issue?
     
  13. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    Huge boxing fan and I happily admit the sport is a ****ing disgrace from top to bottom. Boxing has become a freak show. Mainstream fans only want to have a look when theres an intriguing match up of two fighters who will display hype or violence i.e. Haye vs Chisora. There are two many belts, too many orgs, too many weight classes, not enough competative match ups, too many weak cards, too many hype jobs, too many crooks, too many corrupt judges and refs, too many fat guys, too many chancers etc

    MMA is pretty much the opposite and disgraces boxing.
     
  14. boranbkk

    boranbkk "ไม่ได้โม้นะ" Full Member

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    I kind of understand what t you are tying to say, but don't agree. It's not as black and white as you make it sound. To a certain degree some people are born with a stronger will to fight than others, but I think everyone is born with it none the less. Succesive layers of training developing technique and in particular confidence can develop fighting spirit in someone who seemingly lacks it.

    In regard to Muay Thai in your list above, it doesn't belong there. MT is a stalking uber aggressive style that is about wrecking not defending. There are few purely defensive techiniques in MT as it is taught and parcticed in Thailand. MT's defence lies in its powerful offence and brutal gym conditioning.

    MT hasn't been adopted by kickboxers and MMA fighters the world over for it's defensive capabilities.:lol:
     
  15. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Stupid thread, as a pro boxer my opinion is that mma is an incredible sport. I find the events at least as exciting as any boxing card. That people are too stupid to recognise the skill required on the ground is there problem, additionally anyone who thinks two men fighting is gay needs to reconsider there own sexuality.