Boxing Fans: What do you think of MMA?

Yeah, I know where Valencia is located, I go there cause I like Magic Mountain. It's about two and a half to three hours away from here.

 

Yeah. Its cool. How old are you?

 

Interesting take.

To me boxing is not fighting, it's combat chess - and I'm not even trying to get fancy or nothing. Personally, I'm not even much on basic violence. That's probably why I have no interest in MMA. People kicking each other in the face and straddling up and trying to twist an arm off is just not my ****ing thing.

 

24... a late bloomer by boxing standards, started at 21. But I've always loved the sport, since I can remember, I was just to busy getting into other stuff.

 

Yeah, but its cool. My only advice, don't be a bum in the boxing industry. Don't be one of those guys getting beat the hell up every fight just to make a paycheck. Don't risk getting brain damage and messing up your health in the future just to get some cash. By the way, whats your weight right now?

 

Yeah, I understand what your saying. I want to take it as far as possible but being considerate to my health at the same time. My main thing is to get the experience so I can then pass it on and train a new gen, but of course we all hope for the best with each endeavour.

Right now I'm focusing on technique, lots of technique and some sparring. So I'm not on my optimal weight.
I'm 5' 11" and weigh from 163 to no more than 168 on my worst day.

 

Cool cool. Hope you succeed though. Don't forget that I'm interested in checking you out(no homo)

 

For sure, I'll definitely keep you posted. I'll see you around here. Stay up.

 

Aiight my dude.

 

I've watched several UFC and MMA fights...and most of the concensus here is that the wrestling/grappling aspect of the sport kills the entire fight.

I find this to be VERY true. It also makes the striking part of the game less exciting because of the extrenuous amount of energy that he been wasted trying to get your opponent in some sort of a lock...then both fighters are tired as **** and just sorta stand there for long periods of time before throwing anything. They typically never kick in the face, always to the leg or back of the thigh.

Too many times fights end up being left up to fate with the puncher's chance.

Nothing ever gets settled with who is truly the undisputed and best fighter in the sport...because of the simple fact that you have two clashing ideals in fighting between grappling and striking...one guy can be the best striker in the world and the other can be the best grappler in the world, but both fighters lose themselves in trying to tackle the other aspects of the game...its almost like not spreading enough butter over too much bread...somewhere the **** just gets stale.

There is no connection with nations either to any of these fighters. So you never really get that...tense electricity like you would in a boxing match (a la Louis vs. Schmeling...Cotto vs. Margo...Adamek vs. Cunningham)

It lacks history and lives through the shadow of boxing and only tries to seperate itself not through it's "exciting" fights, but rather through talking about how expansive the action is and how much better it is than boxing.

It can be exciting when they exchange...especially when it's not just punches. Like I watched Frank Shamrock vs. Cung Le and was blown away. What a fight! But ever since then I have YET to see a fight that's like that. Most of this bull**** ends in the first round. And ironically if it's any longer it gets more boring. It just seems like people who watch MMA or UFC are boxing fans with attention disorders.

The other thing that's really frustrating is that there is hardly ever a BIG NAME...The only TRUE names I really recognize from the UFC is The Shamrocks, Couture, Liddell, Silva, Griffin, Arlovski, BJ Penn, St. Pierre, Cung Le...I'm sure theyre are plenty of other big players in the fight game but none of them stand out...like I know of Jardine and Nick Diaz, but saw only one fight from them both. For me part of that is because of the fact that although the fans get what they want with getting the best fights made, when you do that you never really BUILD UP a fighter...its kinda thrown in all too early. They might get lucky one night and have a breakout win because they KO'd so and so, but then the next night they get KTFO...then that guy has the limelight and he fights the original guy that KO'd his predecessor and it just never settles anything. It's very rare you ever see a dominant performance because of the puncher's chance. Fights are called off REALLY REALLY QUICK...and its understandable, but **** man...its really annoying. Some of the punches being thrown on an individual after having fallen on a knee or to the floor are hardly making contact and yet the ref calls if off because the ****er just wont stop swinging and swinging...

I think it's an extremely young sport that needs a shitload of polishing and self-distinction...rather than just the "more exciting sport" in comparison to boxing.

 

I love it. I love fighting.

 

There are a few MMA guys that would do good, watch out for Arlovski he will be a good contender at least one day.

 

I love boxing and MMA, both are great sports. I find a few problems with boxing though, one is the fact that they only promote main events where MMA promotes almost every fight. They really don't promote the main even very well, that makes it hard to get my MMA fans interested in boxing.

I find a lot of boxing fans are protective about boxing when it comes to this subject, and a lot of MMA fans say boxing is boring. Both crowds should become a little more educated in each sport.

I swaer on my own life that both sprts are great and I have been involved in boxing and I have done a bit of BJJ and know that both sports are extremely challenging and that both sports will remain popular for many years to come.

 

Joe Rogan is a big boxing fan.

To quote the man himself.

I refer you to this blog entry...

http://blog.joerogan.net/archives/295

 

Excellent point especially the last sentence. Cream doesnt always rise to the top in MMA with the exception of Fedor recently (and even with him you see some glaring flaws). This is partly because no one is good enough to do so.

In boxing weve had the Floyds and the RJJs who in their primes would just not get beaten, their skills are too "polished" to a point that it dominates and cancels out adversaries.

Fortunately guys like Anderson Silva, Machida seems to bring some sense of control when they fight. This is because they have truly advanced their respective arts both offesively and defensively (the latter being the key). They are able to bring a sense of predictability when they fight. It really does keep the sports integrity when one is able to use their primary skill and apply it to the max against anyone.

Case in point. While everyone is trying to be too well rounded at the expense of having their base skill not evolve, Machida in an interview stated that he practices Karate first and foremost like some 85% of the time because this is his base skill. He must bring it to a point that it can not be overcome. Just compare him with guys like Koscheck who ignores what got him here.

At the end of it all, the MMA is still young, soon we will have form/flow in the sport courtesy of ever evolving fighters. But I'll be honest, I truly believe that guys like Silva, Machida are the precursor to a higher level of MMA

Anyway right now I like MMA better, I believe that there are more competetnt fighters in the sport of boxing relatively speaking but boxing needs the big names and right now theyre very thin in that category. While MMA, people are still in the wait and see mode, what is to come?, there are better matchups down the road. Its just more intriguing for me.