Boxing Fans Who Focus On Money

Wow GGG fans talking about money being unimportant but they constantly use the dumb argument of "Froch and Chavez JR were DRAWS AND BRINGS MONEY, WARD DOESN'T! And that's why 164 is fair"

Idiot alert.

 

Professional boxing IS doing whatever you can get away with.
This is in terms of:
1. PED's - have as much as you can without getting caught. See if you can frame others by offering drinking bottles with low concentration PED's in it, but is enough to get busted. Sue them and make money.

2. Bribery - If you can have the likes of USADA in your back pocket, and if you can fix fights so you get a 'win', then so be it.

3. Financial outlook - Why go for high risk, low reward when you have a career ahead of you? Why rip yourself off of future paydays, more money in the bank for your future? Your career is only like, a decade long. Forget fighting GGG until your stock is falling far too low. Create a rivalry in the meantime, let it simmer. Pac rejected $40m a few years ago, but earned $150m a few years later.

4. Fight tactics - Someone has the intention to hurt you and derive glory from seeing you out cold. Morals go out of the window, do anything it takes to win. There's nothing moral in this God forsaken 'sport' anyway. Headbutt when you can, low blow when you can, cut a lot of weight so you can be a bully in a smaller weight class.
You point-score to win in the most boring manners if you can get away with it. If you can't, find another way to point-score - it's about giving the judges the impression that you won the fight. Not going in there and just 'fighting' because you like to fight, that's the WRONG sport - boxing has its own point-scoring element.

5. Make yourself a polarising figure that will attract ££, or fit into the narrative of being the people's champion even though you don't care, it brings you the ££.


Who cares for the fans? When do they ever financially support suffering former boxers? They want to see people getting hurt for their own entertainment. You're boxing because it's a career. If they can't deal with the career moves of a random person, they need to get a life and a career that challenges them.
The fans don't ultimately deserve anything, especially those who pay for things they don't like.


If you want to see the best fight the best with less politics, watch amateur/AIBA boxing - it's full of talent and you see the fights you want.

 

Freud said that people always talk about what they lack. Politicians about morals, Floyd fans about money, etc

 

These fans have transformed into cheerleaders/ pep squad

 

I agree and I certainly didn't mean money is everything (for me as a fan anyway. I could care less what they get paid). It's just that with today's social media, dirty little secrets are made more obvious and it uncovers the truths that we as fans were more sheltered from before.

Question for you... do you think the sport is better with ppv? A lot of fans instantly may say no and I personally lean that way, but maybe PPV is good for the sport as it makes big fights more like a Superbowl?

 

I would say it's bad for the sport. HBO started it because they wanted to control the money, moving away from ad revenue to subscriber fees. The problem with this is that there is no incentive to produce good product. HBO/Showtime continually put up bull**** fights one after the other. With advertiser backed product, the advertiser is at a loss if the viewership is low, thus they have to produce good product, good fights otherwise they will lose money fast. Witness PBC's crud fights overall and how much they are bleeding month to month.

With cable networks they do a doozy on fans by staging yet more crud fights to build up whomever they deem as the next face. It's all interrelated the boxing game with cable networks, and I really think its bad for the sport especially when they get into turf wars.

The tv ad model has been working for major sports without issue. Why does boxing need PPV? Why is the Superbowl, NFL, NBA, MLB, Tennis, Cycling, Soccer, the Olympics even etc etc etc not on PPV?

Something smells my fellow fan...

 

Yeah but they could've been born something far far worse lmao... Look in the mirror.

 

What does Froch weigh in the ring?

I was under the impression that he was a fighter who actually didn't cut weight.

 

I agree half way. Go to box rec and pull up any top fighter from 1960 till now and very few have fought beast back to back to back.

Not Ali, Hagler, Hearns, Leonard, Duran, Chavez, Tyson, Foreman, Pacquiao, Klitschko, Ward, Golovkin, Kovalev, Lebedev, Jones Jr., Hopkins, Toney, Calzaghe.....No one. Everyone has a lower tier fight in between because it's healthy.

When Floyd was fighting once a year from 2009-2012 it was because he decided to be in the check cashing business. You can't do both anymore. Manny fighting the Clottey's and Rios of the world and making millions is gone unless the networks really like you .

 

The narrative has changed again to favor Golovkin. They ball bashed Floyd fans and now turn around with all the hypocrisy in the world and use the same reasoning for GGG.

 

... Are not boxing fans on closer inspection.

 

Thread is more relevant than ever. Funny how the world doesn't seem to move forward at all, but we think we are so progressive because we have iphones.

In another 5 years, this thread will still be relevant.

And 5 years after that.

People will always live through other people rather that focusing on their own damned lives.

 

Looking pretty dumb now that Ward is LHW