Boxing getting back into mainstream news?

Rashad Evans and Phil Davis are not in the top 10 name draws in the UFC, yet their fight on Fox drew great ratings.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/20...inates-primetime-ratings-in-key-demos/118262/

 

You really want to gloat about weekly news shows that even mma fans don't bother to watch???

Fuel and hdnet are nothing stations. Is MMA Live still on ESPN 2? Even if it is it's on at midnight. Big deal.

HBO is coming up with a quarterly boxing summary and there is talk that CBS might show some boxing this year.

The UFC has a nice TV deal, but i'm not sure what that has anything to do with boxing on TV. Evans is one of their top draws and they also had another two 'names' on that card, lets see how they do on the next one because that card really doesn't have big draws although they are good fights.

 

HBO has roughly the same amount of fights as the UFC has on Network/Cable TV.

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Showtime
Telefutura (this alone has more shows then overall MMA on TV)
NBC Sports
Telemundo (not any smaller then those king of the cage shows the other guy was citing)
ESPN 2
Fox Deportes/Fox Sports (rumored to go to Spike next)
Epix
ESPN Deportes/MSG network/Azteca America and some random ones, it's not like fuel or hdnet dwarfs these stations.

MMA has:

Fox
FX
Fuel
Showtime
HDNet
MTV2/Epix

 

Boxing on TV is dead, that's the short story.

MMA is on the ground level and will only grow the market.

CBS? this Year? Wow... I'll set my DVR. HBO? Quarterly? Wow... huge ratings.

Not gloating, but boxing on TV died with the contender.

Fact: The Contender and The Ultimate Fighter both began in 2005. Contender is long gone, Ultimate Fighter is beginning its 15th season next month.

 

Telefutura, Telemundo & fox deportes really? That's mainstream? Hardly, unless you speak spanish :yep

NBC Sports? When is this on?
Showtime? One show every 3 months?

UFC generally has an event monthly, with the larget events every 3 months.

 

Fuel and HDNet are microscopic stations. A Chavez Jr fight on Fox Deportes got 2x the audience that the debut show on Fuel did.

Fact is there is MORE boxing on TV then ever before. Good for the UFC for going to network 4x a year and the FX shows, the rest is insignificant. I would rather be a boxing fan and pay $30 a month for 3-4 monthly shows on HBO & Showtime then the $55 monthly PPV's from the UFC.

 

UFC on Fox at the end of January did 4.7 Million viewers, Fox Deportes, (with a top 10 popular fighter) did 400K Viewers

Who wins the ratings?

The Fuel fight was the first run on fuel, non "champions" or even top MMA draws, on a Wednesday night and it still drew over 1/2 the Weekend audience of the Chavez fight.. hardly a win for boxing

 

You can't compare network tv with fringe stations, ino you're trolling but recognize that Fox Deportes and Fuel are in the same category (in fact Deportes is in half the homes and Fuel had a free preview and they still did half the numbers).

Believe it or not, Fuel is not gonna EXPLODE in the next year and the UFC is not gonna transform itself into the mainstream monster that you are hoping for.

Spike ratings had decreased before the UFC left, now FX is struggling to even match those Spike numbers. The third Fox show will get a less then half of what they got in November for their big premier and less then the January show based on that lineup. Showtime also cut their MMA budget significantly.

MMA is in a comfortable place but it has hit its ceiling. It's in the same bracket as Boxing and WWE. Niche but profitable.

 

You are the one that brought out Deportes...

Since boxing is coming "mainstream", find a boxing event that draws what UFC does on Fox. HBO PPV is not mainstream, I'll give you HBO, so where has any HBO or Showtime non PPV drawn over 4 Million viewers? And I'd concede that the Fox show wasn't even that good of a card.

The topic is boxing becoming mainstream, I say it's not and it's not getting any better. I used to enjoy rooting for the US at the olympics and watching those same fighters go thru the pro rankings. You do realize that the US won just a single bronze metal in 2008 and a single gold and another bronze in 2004? If things don't get MUCH better in 2012, boxing in the US is screwed. Granted, boxing is an international sport and there will be plenty of other fighters coming up, but the US is the biggest market and here, it's dying a slow death. No excitement outside of a handful of fighters.

Time will tell, but boxing needs some serious help or it's market will dwindle further.

 

So what happens if those Spike and CBS deals happen for boxing? Chavez Jr drew 1.8 million on HBO a month ago but he can't draw 4 million on CBS?

You are trolling but it's same nonsense ive been hearing forever, except that before the line was JUST WAIT UNTIL THE UFC IS ON NETWORK TV!!...well it's there now, they got good to great ratings and is the UFC more popular for it? No, in fact it's less popular now then it was 3 years ago. PPV numbers are down like 30%, Brock who was the closest guy to do Pac/Mayweather numbers is finished. TV ratings on FX are not bigger then Spike.

UFC is doing good but it has no effect on boxing. In fact it's the other way around, ZUFFA has no competitors on network TV because they killed all the other MMA promotions, so if anything CBS/NBC/ABC will look to boxing. In the end both sports are small time in the mainstream in north america (UFC on network TV got beat by Cops and CSI re-runs), and boxing is still a million times more popular worldwide so suck on that and i'm done.

 

http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/box/news?slug=ki-ioli_mailbag_network_tv_bouts_021412

 

Who cares what is "trendy"?

Hanna Montana sells a lot more records than John Zorn, but guess what?

FFS, the very premise of this thread acknowledge that boxing isn't mainstream. The whole point of posting in it is to illustrate examples of it slowly but surely trying to resume its place among mainstream sports. (which, yes, was usurped in part by that MMA crap)

 

Iceman71 just posted this in his own thread, great find:

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The Petersons' story is great. :good

 

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