Boxing guilt

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by babaluma, Sep 12, 2012.


  1. babaluma

    babaluma Member Full Member

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    As with Howard Cossell's famous disgust at Holmes' one sided beating of Tex Cobb has anyone ever watched a fight where you ended up questioning your support of the sport of boxing?

    I am not talking so much about bad match ups and controversial decisions so much as a moral question after a particularly brutal beat down or death.

    From old fights I have seen on Youtube the Duran vs Moore fight is pretty disturbing, I cannot believe Moores corner did not throw in the towel or that the referee did not stop it earlier. Out of fights I saw at the time Eubank vs Watson II and Benn vs Gerald McClellan were pretty grim. Don't get me wrong they were bloody exciting but the aftermath was terrible. The Benn fight was the most intense and violent thing I have ever seen, in the ring and in the crowd.
     
  2. Jacquot

    Jacquot Cruiserweight Paper Champ Full Member

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    I've actually thought that way about the Duran vs. Moore fight. From the 7th round on that was an attempted manslaughter on the part of the referee and Moore's cornerpeople.
     
  3. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    I got pretty bummed after Benn-McClellan but nowadays I'm a lot more heartless.
     
  4. Ricky42791

    Ricky42791 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Benn- McClellan was a phenomenal fight but the ending was tragic, i'd be lying if I said it didnt make me a little sick that a man was beatin to death. Boxing is a lethal sport, you have to realize that you could be killed in the ring everytime you step in it. Its not like a man is being beaten to a pulp against his will they accept this truth by choosing there profession. Duran vs Moore was a great fight, I'm a huge duran fan so its hard for me to not like that one
     
  5. Vince Voltage

    Vince Voltage Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I frequently feel badly about it. In fact I've tried to quit following boxing a few times. It lasts a couple of months, then I come crawling back.
     
  6. The Wanderer

    The Wanderer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There are certain fights and events that make me feel queasy, and as a result I try to stay away from fights that end in death or permanent injury. I also prefer not to watch fights that are simply cruel to one fighter, where a guy is just getting the **** beat out of him over and over again until even the most bloodthirsty fan is yelling at the ref to stop it.
     
  7. Smashgar

    Smashgar McMustache Nuthugger Full Member

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    :blood:blood:blood
     
  8. The Wanderer

    The Wanderer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    McClellan did plenty of despicable things, especially to dogs, but no one deserves to be mostly blind, deaf, and paralyzed. Neither does his family deserve to bankrupt themselves in order to try to care for him.
     
  9. The Funny Man 7

    The Funny Man 7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes it does make me feel intensely uncomfortable sometimes.

    I can remember feeling grossed out during the fight between Nate Campbell and Ricky Quiles. Campbell had been beating the brakes of Quiles, who's health was already shaky from years of known drug abuse. The fight should have been stopped around the seventh. But then around the ninth Campbell turned it up to another level and things just got sooooo ugly. Campbell was blasting him with an endless series of headsnapping head shots. It was really ugly and Teddy Atlas was screaming at the ref to stop it. And for once Teddy's antics were fully justified.
     
  10. dee-z-r

    dee-z-r Active Member Full Member

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    this is kind of different but i remember watching calzaghe vs roy jones jr, feeling bad cause a legend like rjj shouldnt be in that position & calzzaghes cringeworthy taunting was just a **** take
     
  11. babaluma

    babaluma Member Full Member

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    On another front I remember reading the Black Lights book and being confronted by the corruption of the WBC/WBA and the whole Don King charade and feeling "how is this allowed to happen?".

    Also the chapter in Boxing Babylon about the prospect who got the **** beaten out of him by a guy with doctored hand wraps, this was in the 70's I think years before the whole Margarito thing. I have a vague feeling Pepe Corea was involved? I remember being concerned when Corea became Lewis' trainer...
     
  12. FastHands(beeb)

    FastHands(beeb) Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Your second para I believe refers to Billy Collins jr vs Luis Resto; Resto's gloves had the padding removed iirc...

    Resto's trainer was Panama Lewis, also in Pryor's corner vs Arguello, the "black bottle" fight...
     
  13. babaluma

    babaluma Member Full Member

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    Ah yes thats the fight! Also apologies to Pepe Corea for the slander although wasn't he involved in some sculduggery at some point?
     
  14. babaluma

    babaluma Member Full Member

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    Just watched Mayweather vs Gatti....that was pretty grim...
     
  15. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    I can't feel any guilt unless it's a blatant mismatch like Mike Tyson-Marvis Frazier...without boxing there are no sports to me, so I accept what happens and move on...after all boxing is the king of sports. And remember, no one twists anyone's arm to become a fighter and step through the ropes for that ultimate man to man test that we call boxing...all boxers know the risks.