Boxing has never and will never be about knockouts.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by MVC!, Aug 25, 2018.


  1. heerko koois

    heerko koois Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It,s true ! my favorite boxers were Sven Ottke and Henry Maske ....
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  2. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Which is kind of funny, given that Floyd scored a number of nasty KD's and KO's in his career, especially at junior lightweight and lightweight.
     
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  3. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Now this was a FIGHT!!! I remember being on the old Prodigy boxing forum where I forecast Ike would beat Tua. I was ridiculed unmercifully Guys were asking if Ike was Japanese they;d never heard of him. Next day phone was ringing off the hook asking " Where have you been hiding this guy he's AWESOME!!"
     
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  4. slender4

    slender4 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    If that were true they'd wear 40 oz gloves.
     
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  5. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I take no issue with you conclusion but all the reasons you used to prompt that conclusion are all sorts of wrong.

    I'll not be having you believe bare knuckle eras had no rounds. They had rounds. General rule of thumb is anyone from pre-1888 is probably fighting using a rounds are downs system. Rounds themselves don't really favor anyone. What gave some favor to pure boxing was having a scheduled end to the match. If you're boxing you're not ending a fight. It's unfair for a defensive fighter to have to have such great D they get the other to quit. It's unfair because men will push themselves to death. So beforehand it wasn't uncommon for a boxer to defeat what in the day was referred to as a "slaughterer" by tiring them out and getting them to quit only to find that man died from his exhaustions later, sometimes both men died. Ends gave boxers a goal to hit where there used to be none.

    Funny enough Daniel The Jew Mendoza invented showcasing defense, footwork, angles, etc.

    That brash attitude Money Mayweather uses to sell tickets, Daniel invented that as well.

    Selling tickets to a sporting event in the first place was an invention of Mendoza's.

    Rile the press, get the audience hot, stoke the flames of racism and make sure they want to see you get hurt. Sell more ass in seats than any man before you, and when the fight sets-to refuse to engage, keep yourself moving, circling, countering, but most importantly safe. Get your money and keep the fans hating so they still want to see you get messed up.....Danny Jew did it first...in the 1790s.

    If the audience wanted to see it it wouldn't work as well as it has over the past 300 years.



    It's a Spartan military tactic that has never failed. Never failed. The only states that takeover boxing states as the hegemony states are also boxing states. Greece to Rome, Rome to BE, BE to US. You should find beauty in the KO otherwise you're just half a fan who is in love with half the sport, and it takes a lot more than caveman bull**** to be the military martial arts training that unites Sparta with America.

    See above, half a fan in love with half the sport. There's a reason why I go by Glaukos. It's the same reason Deontay Wilder calls the science of boxing a myth. Boxing has a pretentious side. You are an example of it. These people who believe because boxing has repeated its jargon, rhetoric, adages, and caveats often that makes them tested, observed, or in some way or another scientifically proven. It isn't. Boxing is bull**** stacked on bull**** with the only measuring stick being who won what fight. Glaukos is your first example of centuries of "to be successful you must do this" being flushed down the tube with one good right.

    There's a reason why boxing theory is a thing and boxing law is not. No scientific testing whatsoever.

    Yin requires yang....and anytime you tell Man he can't do or he must do Man will defy and redefine.


    Finally, boxing, as a system is meant for the common denominator. Most people who ever attempt boxing in any form are going to need to follow it's theories as closely as they can manage. Most people. Very very few of us can manage world level rankings without a lick of understanding the theories.

    Just like most you tone deaf *******s best take a music class and learn music theory while very very few can simply pick up a guitar and get to playing some Van Halen.

    That alone has beauty. Being the one, the special, the simply born to do it sort, has weight.
     
  6. ATG22

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    In baseball, a singles hitter who bats .360 isn’t going to get more props than a guy who hits .290 with 50 homers.

    In boxing, a guy who is 30-0 with 14 KO’s isn’t going to draw as much fanfare as a guy who is 25-2 with 24 KO’s.

    One is just more exciting to watch, even if the other “succeeds” more.
     
  7. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    "stands up begins slow clap"
     
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  8. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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  9. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Seriously. The idea that boxing isn't about knockouts is pure nonsense. It's what gets most of us into the sport and keeps us on the edge of our seats. Just like the homer does in baseball. To deny this is to deny reality.
     
  10. rapscalion

    rapscalion Boxing Addict Full Member

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    LOL so guys shouldn't throw hard shots in case they might knock their opponent out? Why stretch it out over 12 rounds if you can end it early?
     
  11. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 32-0 WBC Champ, Ring + Lineal HW Champ Full Member

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    Yet loves modern day cave man Deonkay?? Contradict much...

    Oh its MVC never mind..
     
  12. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I appreciate that bud.
     
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  13. recycling

    recycling Active Member Full Member

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    Power punching isn't caveman like. Actual cavemans were probably feather fisted
     
  14. Geo1122

    Geo1122 Active Member Full Member

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    And yet simple but effective measures are taken to assure that we see more KOs in the professional game: No head guard, lighter gloves.

    If a KO was simply an unwanted byproduct of boxing, then these things would be adjusted accordingly to prevent further KOs.