Boxing historians/aficionados give their take on Pretty Boy Floyd vs Lomachenko

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  1. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    We never saw him do it though so thats not for sure.
     
  2. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    The domestic level was a term I used to grab attention and highlight the fact that JLC kept getting knocked out by domestic Mexicans. And he wasnt 18 or 19 either. He was a seasoned fighter when he kept getting stopped by Mexican Landscapers.
     
  3. tinman

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    If you look at Floyd at 130 hes not as savvy there as he was at higher weights. It took him a surprisingly long time to break down Genaro Hernandez while DLH did it almost immediately. Same pattern with Gatti.

    I dont think Loma can just be simply kept on the outside. His footwork is too good. He actually has better footwork than Mayweather.
     
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  4. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    A prime Floyd went life and death with a guy who couldn't beat Mexican grass cutters.

    Two can play that game.
     
  5. TheyDontBoxNoMore7

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    Linares was nowhere near as savvy as Floyd and Salido I need not mention nothing. The only difference in Floyd’s IQ and Loma was Floyd didn’t do all this fancy **** and he still didn’t get hit. Don’t know what bs you’re talking about.
     
  6. Pimp C

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    Genaro Hernandez was a much better fighter than Salido was that's for damn sure. He was a technician. What PBF did to him was a clinic and very impressive. Oscar also fought Hernandez at 135 and not at 130 where he was a career 130 pound fighter and the man at that weight but you left that out to suit your agenda, big difference there. He doesn't have better footwork than PBF if he did he would be able to fight at all ranges especially on the inside but he can't because he can't get leverage on his punches on the inside like PBF can and that has to do with footwork.:deal: Also you're a damn fool if you don't think PBF would catch Loma trying to come in. He would keep him at bay for most of the fight with his long jab his right hand and his movement he would chose to go on the inside on Loma to give him a different look and wear the much smaller man down.
     
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  7. MVC!

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    Be honest with us here, would you have really given him full credit if they fought in 2009 and he won?

    You're on record saying Pac's best days were at 122-130. So him losing at 147, you would DEFINITELY have put an asterisk on it either way. You definitely would still be bombarding us with that had it happened in 2009.

    Be honest, for once!
     
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    :facepalm:
    I'm talking about Loma being 19 or 18 and fighting Salido in his 2nd pro fight. He would get killed if he had done so.
     
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  9. Pimp C

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    we did see him beat pac easier than he did Maidana. Let that sink in.
     
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  10. TheyDontBoxNoMore7

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    Dudes trying to act like Loma’s D and skills are on the same level of Floyd’s especially at the lower weights. Floyd rarely showboated and took care of business for the most part. I’ve never seen a legit 3-4 punch combination land on Floyd like we all witnessed in Lomachenko’s last fight. They’re not on the same level. You can lie to yourselves all you want but Loma is a pampered “slow starter” that fought in headgear and pillows for the majority of his boxing career.

    How tf you have 400 amateur fights to prepare you for the pros and still get an “L” your second fight? Just stop the noise people. There’s no comparison yet. Your best bet is to compare Loma to Ronda Rousey who isn’t even a boxer. That’s the closest comparison you can make at this point. She was the greatest thing since sliced bread with 10-12 fights as well making all manner of idiots drunk like a bunch of you.

    Let’s wait till this guy gets to 20 fights atleast.
     
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  11. MVC!

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    People just tend to forget how dominant the 130 PBF was, he was an assassin in there, looking to knock your damn head off everytime he's out there.

    Look what he did to Corrales, Manfredy, Hernandez. He beat Hernandez so badly they stopped it because he took way too much damage.
     
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    puncherschance Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Who would that be?
     
  13. tinman

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    Loma actually stopped Linares from a combo inside finished with a body shot.
     
  14. tinman

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    Honestly I would give FMJ credit and acknowledge he beat a prime Manny if he did it in 2009 at 147. But I would also almolwedge Manny was far removed from his natural weight class.

    Manny is a much smaller fighter than FMJ.
     
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  15. Pimp C

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    And Loma is smaller than Pac, yet you think he can beat PBF.
     
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