Boxing historians/aficionados give their take on Pretty Boy Floyd vs Lomachenko

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by MVC!, May 21, 2018.


  1. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    Lets get back to Floyd and Loma!!!

    My prediction is all the triggered Fluid nuthuggers will say Fluid beats the crap out of Loma and vice versa. Goofs.

    The unbiased members will no doubt state it would be a fantastic match up of styles that would probably be a fairly close/competive fight.

    Assuming that they fought at a weight not too high for Loma, obviously.

    I personally think Fluid would win but i would love seeing how it went down and highly doubt it would be anything but easy.

    Those that say otherwise are simply triggered and shook by Loma's footwork that take even top boxers out of their comfort zone.

    Its not ok to hate on EEs just because some EE fans are racist, EE's are people to and as soon as we choose to deny that the cycle of hate is allowed to continue.

    Love the EEs as they are human just like we all are.

    Its the best way to create lasting change because its created from truthfully positive feelings rather than decietful BS that creates change at a price so costly hot heads simply cant fathom it and therefore they make the cowardly choice to deny it as its so easy to do.

    Just saying.
     
  2. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    I know a lot about the horror systems here, I've been here for many years.

    I think we've both made our points, we should be done here.

    I never once called for any riots, all I said was it'll happen on a more regular basis if this keeps going on!

    And it's entirely possible it COULD create something positive.

    Anyways, we've been at this for a whole day, I think we're at a point where we do agree pretty much entirely.

    Anyways, from what I've seen I can see Lomachenko giving him a good fight, but I don't see him beating Floyd Mayweather, Jr at 130 or 135.

    The guy was just too supremely talented and was too much of an offensive and defensive force at that weight class.

    I could see Loma getting dropped several times in this fight if he stays in the pocket that long.

    Don't see Loma dropping Floyd. Could see him having some success early though!
     
  3. Pimp C

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    Was loma a teenager in his 2nd pro fight or a 26 year old grown man? If loma was 19 in his 2nd pro fight against salido he would have gotten his **** pushed in.
     
  4. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    I agree, we made some excellent points about blindly rioting against innocent human beings.

    Yeah i could see Fluid dropping Loma, as well i could see Loma getting back up and potentially giving Money trouble late as well as early. Lets not assume Fluid would completely figure out a style that is a fair bit different from other styles that Fluid has faced.

    I still think he would win but that Loma is a amazing talent that could make it a very close fight. To say Fluid would easily beat Loma is simply denying all the close fights that Fluid had with fighters that in my opinion didnt have the skills and style that Loma has. Again, not saying Loma woyld win, my point was obviously this could realistically mean it could be a very close as well as interesting fight.
     
  5. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    I'm not sure why you keep calling him that, there's literally no evidence whatsoever to suggest he did anything wrong. It's just the usual suspects parroting that non story and trying to make it into one. :risas3::eatingburger

    Well anyways, that's your choice.

    I think it could be a very interesting clash of styles.

    I certainly do not think Loma could win, but he'd be a top 2 135 lb or 130 for Floyd!

    I will say that for sure. Loma's a good fighter
     
  6. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    I call him Fluid because you use the same type of silly phrases to make fun of boxers you dont like. I do it as a joke, thought that was cool to do because you do it so often with boxers you for your own personal reasons dont like, just kidding back with you MVC.

    Is that wrong of me MVC???

    Its not as if i am saying that Fluid was using the IV to mask the heavy sauce he was taking. I just find the whole story really bizarre, kinda like many stories from many boxers be they American, EE or other.

    Its no different than me calling Canelo and Sasha , Clenelo and Pevetkin etc, correct????

    Just be glad i doñt call him "the woman beater" as didnt he get charged for that?

    Or was that BS that i accidently assumed was true??
     
  7. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    All BS!

    There was no proof!
     
  8. MVC!

    MVC! The Best Ever Full Member

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    You know the police corruption down there in Newark, it's unparalleled. They see any rich person and they can't wait to get their hands on their $.
     
  9. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    I already told you i was only saying it to poke fun at you, dont you listen or is there a chance that deep down you have used negative energy to deny yourself from considering whether there could be truth to the IV being used to help dilute and pass his random drug test that caught him by surprise?

    If that were the case you would by nature take greater offence to my mockery of fluid than was truthfully meant by me. You would in that case misjudge me as in poor humour to thereby help you conceal the poor feeling you became unexpectedly aware was trapped and denied within you at the times of my mockery, i hope thats not what happened, was it MVC??

    Regardless, i think its possible there is a chance he was always clean even if deep down you keep wavering on it.
     
  10. MVC!

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    I believe what I believe, and that he was completely 100% clean. I do believe that he was very dehydrated though, and that's why he needed that emergency IV. Very similar to game 1 spurs vs miami a few years back.

    It happens.

    Unless there's evidence, I have to believe that the man was 100% innocent. A clean track record, never guilty of cheating in his illustrious ATG career.

    He really is the best!
     
  11. latineg

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    You quoting yourself again?

    LoL

    Yes good point about Newark, one of the worst, i could tell you a few stories that went down in Hoboken that not many would believe to this day.
     
  12. MVC!

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    Lots of corruption down there.

    There's no way I'll believe anything the police says down there.

    Scary stuff.
     
  13. latineg

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    Are you saying in game one of the spurs and miami a drug testing official came to collect a urine sample from one of the players but couldnt because said player was at that time dehydrated and thus needed a 750iv of fluids to allow him to pass his urine onto be drug tested?

    I honestly dont know MVC, was it to help the player give urine for his PED test or was it because a BB player had become so dehydrated that it became a emergency NOT because the PED police had unexpectly shown up at his door but because the BB player was so dehydrated that they declared a emergency even though he wasnt required to pee in a bottle?
     
  14. MVC!

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    Lebron got an emergency IV for dehydration because he played an entire game. It happens, some athletes just require it, water doesn't work.

    Floyd must have been severely dehydrated. It gets quite hot in May down there in LV. I was there a few years back and I almost fainted it was so hot

    Don't forget the IV was administered by a medic from a nearby hospital. This was something done professionally, making this as legit as can be
     
  15. WalcottsBentFace

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    Was it still his 2nd pro fight??

    Are the pros not a different game than the ams and take some getting used to?? Or are we changing that since Loma’s in the discussion?

    Has Loma improved a lot since then??