Boxing historians/aficionados give their take on Pretty Boy Floyd vs Lomachenko

I agree MVC.

That said it doesnt give you or me the right to go up to a Newark police officer and beat him/her up for no reason because there is a chance that officer could be a innocent human being and taking our anger out on a innocent human being would simply multyple our current problem of unjust treatment of innocent others.

 

So Lebron didnt require the IV to help him pee???

He required it to help him rehydrate correct?

Whereas Floyd had a emergency because the urine police showed up unexpectedly and then when asked he couldnt pee because he was dehydrated, see the difference??? Yes you can.

That doesnt mean he is guilty MVC, it means the example you used was not the same as Floyds situation, correct??

It is a fact that IVs administered right before PED tests help performers pass ped tests and it becomes suspicious that right after the PED police show up Floyds camp declares a emergency that allows him to take 750mls of fluid right before he gives his urine test.

Yeah so uncool with the Lebron example i trust you will never attempt to use that different situation in a attempt to confuse this iv situation further MVC??

 

Ok so the emergency happened before the testers showed up? I didnt know that? See this is helpful.

Listen, all i am saying is it is suspicious and is not like the Lebron case as lebron didnt get his fluids to help him pee for a urine test.

Thats not proof, never said it was, told you from the start i say it to poke fun at you just as you poke fun at others.

 

i told you that i believe its possible he was innocent. Its not a conspiracy to keep a open mind and ask questions MVC, dont use bully tactics to create the illusion that it is. No need.

And you are right, you and i no longer need to discuss this issue as we have said what we both needed to say. Just dont get mad at me in future if i call Floyd Fluid, i told you i mostly do it to poke fun at you, that doesnt make me evil you know.

Sleep well my friend.

 

You are confusing me with all the others you have discussed this subject with prior.

A common mistake that i forgive you of. You and i have never before discussed this subject at any length. You always ran away instead.

Hey if you want to judge and blame me for having a open mind on this subject thats your choice MVC.

Like i said i believe its possible that he is innocent. If you cant take me poking fun at you then maybe you do need to go to bed. LoL

 

Where is the medical report?

 

Yes it was but he was also not a teenager in his 2nd pro fight like 99% of boxers are. Completely different circumstances here. I just wish people would stop acting like he was some teen when he was in his 2nd pro fight because he wasn't he was a 26 year old grown man, with tons of experience in the WSB and close to 400 am fights with the greatest am record ever, he's special case. Yes the pro game is different and some stand out ams don't make good pros but some do like Loma. It's a case by case deal.

 

Who said that he was a teen? Just because he wasn't a teen doesn't mean that he was accustomed to 12 round pro fights, because he never had a bout that lasted for more than 5 rounds before that.

 

There is no paramedic report, because there was no medic. It's a lie.

But we do have a pre-fight medical data sheet that explains everything.

https://boxnation.azureedge.net/cloudcache/f/8/3/4/9/f/f8349fcd29a119dddf0bf3d889dc43622233c574.png

"Mayweather claimed that he was dehydrated before the Pacquiao fight that's why he used IV. If a fighter is dehydrated, his blood pressure is likely to be low and his pulse rate high. That wasn’t the case with Mayweather as evidenced by the Nevada State Athletic Commission medical data sheet, Mayweather’s blood pressure was 118/84, his pulse rate was 60 sitting and 66 standing which were normal for an athlete. The doctor is also checking the mucous membrane lining inside the fighter’s mouth for signs of dehydration. Furthermore, if a fighter is dehydrated, there are additional signs of that condition in his skin turgor (the time it takes for skin to return to its original position after being pinched).

Neither of these conditions was noted by the examining doctor. To repeat: Mayweather showed no signs of dehydration at his pre-fight physical examination."

Froid Pedweather JR. = 100% PED cheat