Boxing hot takes?

What’s the confusion? Ali only fought one of the Spinks brothers.

 

Seniesa Estrada. Plenty hot enough for me.

 

Commissions don't give a s### about boxers' heights - the weights are the only thing that matters. They literally just ASK fighters for their heights - I know this from when my own father was a pro boxer decades ago. You can see similar "fluctuations" in numerous fighters' heights throughout their careers (i.e.: Canelo's height has fluctuated between 5'7", 5'7.5", & 5'8").

 

McGovern vs Gans was a fix. As are most of Canelo's fights in the last half decade.

 

Where’s all the 280 pound champs at?

 

Where are all the 200lb champs?

 

They r at cruiser and don’t fight at HW anymore but one of them moved up and wiped out the division. Where’s the 280 pounders?

 

Butterbean was not a real hw champ. They don’t have to be 280. Where’s all the 7 foot champs? They should be dominating if size was everything. Boxing is a skill. Like size doesn’t help u hit a fastball or golf ball better it doesn’t help ur mechanics, style, reflexes, chin, stamina (actually hurts that), etc. there is a point of diminishing returns. Size matters more in the smaller weights. Once u hit 180 ur strong enough to knock out any man. This isn’t my opinion this was the hw division for a century and most champs were in that 190-210 range. They weren’t 250 6”8 men

 

He is talking about his brother Leon who ended Alis reign and lost the rematch.

 

Bowe would've beaten Lewis if he didn't drop his belt in the trash.

 

I have almost the exact same opinion, almost word-for-word.

Liston has always reminded me of a HW version of Dick Tiger - he could be devastating vs. fighters that came to him or stood in front of him, but was far less efficient vs. boxer/movers. Like Tiger, they relied on lunging/reaching from the outside in order to catch up w/ boxers instead of maneuvering to cut off the ring. The difference in Liston's case is that he often enjoyed significant size/weight advantages vs. the boxers of his era & was still able to win fights on that basis. For that reason, he may still have been able to beat some of the under-200 lb boxers that you listed, but he would have his hands full doing it. I think he loses outright to any great boxer/mover that was his size or larger, like Holmes or Holyfield.

 

Way more fixed fights than any of us would want to imagine.

Either because someone agrees to lose with grace going in as part of the fight arrangement or dumps the fight closer to real time because of gambling/bets.

I still believe Hagler agreed to carry Duran as an agreement beforehand to get the big payday, hence Hagler's restrained approach. Duran even didn't need to know..Also think he and Sugar Ray made a deal, probably because Hagler claimed he could, that he would fight rightee for four rounds to get the fight and that's why he was so bitter over the decision and SRL afterward- "You feel like you beat me when I gave you the first four rounds? What kind of ^#%&^# are you?!"

We will never know a tenth of what takes place behind the scenes and don't want to know what goes into the sausage behind the factory doors.

 

But yeah, that's what I thought.

Talent has always been kinda thin at the heaviest weights because ... guess what ... 280lb fighters are as rare as hens teeth compared to 22-2240lb heavyweights. So any huge mastodon is probably not going to be super skilled to begin with.