Boxing in America is dying, but is it at it's peak in Europe?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by persianprince, Aug 2, 2012.


  1. UFgators

    UFgators Active Member Full Member

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    It's not about big events being on ppv, it's about regular bouts being off of easily accessible tv. The guys who come out of the Olympics, where will they start fighting so the general public can watch them? There's no platform like SRL or those guys had back in the day. The fights and easy accessibility are where you build a fanbase for future endeavors(HBO, Showtime, ppvs, etc). HBO had it easy when they could take fighters who'd already built a large fanbase from fights on ABC or wherever.

    Friday Night Fights doesn't count because at 10 or 11 pm on Fridays your potential fan is at a bar, movie, etc and not watching boxing. How much boxing can your average 10 year old kid watch? He's not gonna be able to stay up late at night to watch FNF or HBO WCB. They need to be able to watch boxing with their dads/grandfathers/whoever in the afternoon, early evening so they can became fans or even become fighters.
     
  2. JeanPaulValley

    JeanPaulValley Boxing Addict banned

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    Boxing will never be a huge sport and rarely has. Boxing is a niche sport like Rugby and horse racing etc. Think about Tennis,Ping Pong,Bowling etc All those sports are still around yet almost no one watches and almost no one cares. Boxing is far more poplar then Bowling,Tennis and all those sports in the USA so it will be fine.
    Casual fans can **** off. They left after Tyson left. They dont understand the sport and they dont know the history-**** 'em.
     
  3. JeanPaulValley

    JeanPaulValley Boxing Addict banned

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    And anyway,when Garcia beat Khan the other day,the US fans were buzzing about him on Twitter and they even started talking about other rising Americans like Seth Mitchell.
    Boxing is a sport that you either fall into or not.
     
  4. technocrato

    technocrato Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You ment USA right? Cuz in Quebec, it is blooming, as ever before. When you consider how many gims there is and how full they are, it's never been as popular as of right now. Lucas - Pascal - Bute played a big part. I went to see amateur fights last year (good young amateur but nothing spectacular, no prospect what so ever and no olympic material) and the place was jam packed.
     
  5. Ripple633

    Ripple633 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Boxing can be a huge sport, like I said there has a lot of factors to why boxing has declined. One of the major reasons is the lack of boxing gyms. There has been a rapid decline in boxing gyms in the U.S. For example there used to be 152 boxing gyms in N.Y City, now there is like 52. In California boxing gyms were abundant, there is far less now.

    And guess what the boxing gyms are being replaced by? Suburban ****ing homes. It's because of urban planners and government subsidies towards housing that you are seeing a decline in boxing gyms.

    It doesn't help that the economy is weak, and that more kids are spending time in the corrupt public schools. You have the TV networks who refuse to cover boxing like they used to, who knows ****ing why. They are also corrupt and in bed with the government. It's no coincidence that boxing continues to decline in popularity every decade.
     
  6. Cableaddict

    Cableaddict Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There's no platform for them, because there's no interest in the sport by the general public.

    There's no interest in the sport by the general public, because PPV keeps the big glamour fights off the general public's radar.

    So yes, it is exactly about big events being on ppv.
     
  7. JeanPaulValley

    JeanPaulValley Boxing Addict banned

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    I think it's making somewhat of a comeback now though. Fox Sports will air Deontay Wilder tomorrow. NBC Sports has had 4 very good cards and will have more. HBO and Showtime do their thing. ESPNFNF,that show Broadway Boxing is good etc.
    UFC is losing popularity already and has barely been around. Boxing is like hundreds of years old right? We're doing alright then.
    I know a lot of people who love Tennis for instance. I have never seen a tennis school around me. Never heard of one, but I know people play it still.
    Boxing will be OK I think.
     
  8. vnyc

    vnyc Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    he's not from US and he doesn't know what he's talking about.
     
  9. persianprince

    persianprince Boxing Addict Full Member

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    MMA really ****ed u up :D
     
  10. the_truth

    the_truth Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Sorry buddy but boxing has been dying for over 100 years now:lol: It still setting records and everyday around the world and yes U.S cities boxing fights and events are taking place as I post this. Where I live alone we have 3 boxing gyms in a 7 square mile city.
     
  11. Cableaddict

    Cableaddict Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I can't remember if Hagler-Hearns was, but I'm pretty sure I watched it live, and I had no cable. Ali-frazier was ABSOLUTELY broadcast on network TV. (there WAS no cable or PPV back then.) I think it might have been pay TV in other parts of the world, (not sure how that worked) but not in the US.

    What are you talking about?
     
  12. thewinfella

    thewinfella The Golden Boy Full Member

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    Its gathering pace in Britain thats for sure, the problems faced in the States are all down to promotional companies , we have the same issues here just not on the scale that the US have it , but thats because we do not have a Floyd Mayweather or Manny Pacquiao residing in the UK , popularity breeds greed and corruption , its all down to $$$ obviously

    For the sake of boxing here in the UK the promoters should keep doing these co promoted cards , they just make sense for everyone involved , the only one who's not moving on that is Frank and his stable are all slowly leaving him

    As much as it pains me , Eddie Hearn seems to be doing a good job in just pushing the right fights out there with the minimum of fuss , so nobody in the UK can have complaints about him
     
  13. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    I enjoy boxing more than I ever did. I can see more fights, keep up to date with fighters, check out threads here etc... Don't really care if it's slipping stateside or not.
     
  14. Caper

    Caper How about a fair shake? banned Full Member

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    I wouldnt necessarily say its dying but I do feel times have changed and the youth has swayed towards other less violent intrests and or ways of proclaiming your spot as a man. When I was 14 I was slap boxing guys in the street, drinking 40oz and jumping in the train tracks and tagging up the entire NYC. Now the 14 year old are taking cute pictures of themselves and posting it on twitter, Instagram and facebook typing up sweet nothings to girls who are already asking them what car they drive and how much money they have in their bank accounts. Everyone used to line up for the police athletic league boxing torneys now that same line has one or two bad seeds that where forced by law to take up the sport for disciplinary reasons and the line for soccer is around the corner next to the neighborhood starbucks.
     
  15. speedy2056

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    This year has been the most dire year for boxing since 2010 so it's no wonder these "boxing is dying" threads are starting up again. But the sport will always pull in the masses when it puts on a mega fight. Actually, somebody who is a massive MMA fan asked me if Hatton was coming back the other day, which to me, is evidence that people are still interested in it, somewhat.