Boxing knowledge is dangerous...

jecxbox · Apr 17, 2008

Lampley said:

Translation: To believe that Joe Calzaghe is the best of all-time, you can't know **** about boxing.
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Polymath · Apr 17, 2008

I'm vacillating on this one.

Think I'm gonna go with my inner Chimp :yep

cuchulain · Apr 17, 2008

China_hand_Joe said:

There are a few reasonably regarded posters, trainers who are picking Hopkins. Why? Because they have boxing knowledge.

They can see that Hopkins is an expert boxer, with textbook defence and offence. They also know that a lot of Calzaghe's moves are not textbook. So with their knowledge in mind they end up picking Hopkins to expoit the quirks in Calzaghe's style.

Having a decent level of boxing knowledge is pretty useless however when you ignore all else. Many wild chimpazees whom have never seen a boxing match will tell you a 42+ year old will not win against an exceptional fighter.

And whilst A beat B so C beats B is never perfect, it is pretty safe to assume Calzaghe will beat the man who was more or less equally matched with Taylor.

The persons whos boxing knowledge will cost them the most though is Bernard Hopkins. He has studied Calzaghe, spotted a few potential weaknessess and told himself he can exploit Calzaghe. Even Bernard Hopkins has ignored the simple child-like logic that could have saved him from the worst night of his career. Still though, he'll take a nice pay-check and will be able to enjoy his retirement.

Anyway. If everyone on this board had zero boxing knowledge they would all pick Calzaghe, based on the age difference and they would all be right. This fight will demonstrate that boxing knowledge applied out of context and where it is irrelevant is useless.

The only reason Joe Calzaghe is not considered the best fighter of all time is boxing knowledge. Simple logic tells us he is. I sincerely hope you all realise this on Sunday.
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A first rate post, Mr. China Hand !

The premises are so self-evident as to be virtually axiomatic.

The logic is both a romp through the gardens of reason, and a work of pristine beauty.

The conclusion is so potently patent and so murklessly manifest as to dissuade argumentation from all but the most obdurate and hebetudinous of dullards.

All in all, sheer Brilliance.

And yet, I fear that you toss pearls before swine here.

Even with such clarity and perspicuity, there are multitudes on here who are so steeped in their nescience and mired in their ignorance that the simplicity of the thing will elude them.

Verily, you can't be faulted for that state of affairs.

You did your best to explain it.

(As President Bush once remarked: "You can drag a camel to the waterhole but if he doesn't want to eat, he's not hungry anyway.")

They'll realize the truth and see the light on the morn of Sunday next.

kg0208 · Apr 17, 2008

Blocky said:

Joe can't punch from as many angles as Hopkins? I'll take the fact that Hopkins is a better timer with his counter punching than Joe but seriously, Joe predominately is an angle fighter, that's how he retains his accuracy despite "wide" punches, because he's coming at you from so many different tangents, he's hard to predict.
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He cannot COUNTER punch from as many angles. When he is on the offensive, he punches from many angles indeed.

Lance_Uppercut · Apr 17, 2008

China_hand_Joe said:

There are a few reasonably regarded posters, trainers who are picking Hopkins. Why? Because they have boxing knowledge.

They can see that Hopkins is an expert boxer, with textbook defence and offence. They also know that a lot of Calzaghe's moves are not textbook. So with their knowledge in mind they end up picking Hopkins to expoit the quirks in Calzaghe's style.

Having a decent level of boxing knowledge is pretty useless however when you ignore all else. Many wild chimpazees whom have never seen a boxing match will tell you a 42+ year old will not win against an exceptional fighter.

And whilst A beat B so C beats B is never perfect, it is pretty safe to assume Calzaghe will beat the man who was more or less equally matched with Taylor.

The persons whos boxing knowledge will cost them the most though is Bernard Hopkins. He has studied Calzaghe, spotted a few potential weaknessess and told himself he can exploit Calzaghe. Even Bernard Hopkins has ignored the simple child-like logic that could have saved him from the worst night of his career. Still though, he'll take a nice pay-check and will be able to enjoy his retirement.

Anyway. If everyone on this board had zero boxing knowledge they would all pick Calzaghe, based on the age difference and they would all be right. This fight will demonstrate that boxing knowledge applied out of context and where it is irrelevant is useless.

The only reason Joe Calzaghe is not considered the best fighter of all time is boxing knowledge. Simple logic tells us he is. I sincerely hope you all realise this on Sunday.
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It is dangerous....you should get some knowledge! :good

BTW...when did you resort to trolling? Sad.....so sad.:verysad

Lance_Uppercut · Apr 17, 2008

Lampley said:

Translation: To believe that Joe Calzaghe is the best of all-time, you can't know **** about boxing.
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OWNTAGE!!

Lance_Uppercut · Apr 17, 2008

Blocky said:

Simple logic tells us that a counter puncher will not beat another counter puncher if his handspeed and workrate isn't equal.
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Calzaghe is a counter puncher now? Oh, I get it. Because he throwa so much, some come AFTER the other guys punch, so then it's a counter. Right? HIGH-larious...

Lance_Uppercut · Apr 17, 2008

klion22 said:

China Hand Joe and MasterCalzaghe are concrete proof of this statement.
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Put these guys in a steel cage fight to the death with Bigtime9, johnco, Fitzgerald, and pacdbest.. for the title of ULTIMATE NUTHUGGER!!

Shane · Apr 17, 2008

China_hand_Joe said:

There are a few reasonably regarded posters, trainers who are picking Hopkins. Why? Because they have boxing knowledge.

They can see that Hopkins is an expert boxer, with textbook defence and offence. They also know that a lot of Calzaghe's moves are not textbook. So with their knowledge in mind they end up picking Hopkins to expoit the quirks in Calzaghe's style.

Having a decent level of boxing knowledge is pretty useless however when you ignore all else. Many wild chimpazees whom have never seen a boxing match will tell you a 42+ year old will not win against an exceptional fighter.

And whilst A beat B so C beats B is never perfect, it is pretty safe to assume Calzaghe will beat the man who was more or less equally matched with Taylor.

The persons whos boxing knowledge will cost them the most though is Bernard Hopkins. He has studied Calzaghe, spotted a few potential weaknessess and told himself he can exploit Calzaghe. Even Bernard Hopkins has ignored the simple child-like logic that could have saved him from the worst night of his career. Still though, he'll take a nice pay-check and will be able to enjoy his retirement.

Anyway. If everyone on this board had zero boxing knowledge they would all pick Calzaghe, based on the age difference and they would all be right. This fight will demonstrate that boxing knowledge applied out of context and where it is irrelevant is useless.

The only reason Joe Calzaghe is not considered the best fighter of all time is boxing knowledge. Simple logic tells us he is. I sincerely hope you all realise this on Sunday.
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Did you just say that Calzaghe might have a few potential weaknesses? :yikes

sues2nd · Apr 17, 2008

China_hand_Joe said:

There are a few reasonably regarded posters, trainers who are picking Hopkins. Why? Because they have boxing knowledge.

They can see that Hopkins is an expert boxer, with textbook defence and offence. They also know that a lot of Calzaghe's moves are not textbook. So with their knowledge in mind they end up picking Hopkins to expoit the quirks in Calzaghe's style.

Having a decent level of boxing knowledge is pretty useless however when you ignore all else. Many wild chimpazees whom have never seen a boxing match will tell you a 42+ year old will not win against an exceptional fighter.

And whilst A beat B so C beats B is never perfect, it is pretty safe to assume Calzaghe will beat the man who was more or less equally matched with Taylor.

The persons whos boxing knowledge will cost them the most though is Bernard Hopkins. He has studied Calzaghe, spotted a few potential weaknessess and told himself he can exploit Calzaghe. Even Bernard Hopkins has ignored the simple child-like logic that could have saved him from the worst night of his career. Still though, he'll take a nice pay-check and will be able to enjoy his retirement.

Anyway. If everyone on this board had zero boxing knowledge they would all pick Calzaghe, based on the age difference and they would all be right. This fight will demonstrate that boxing knowledge applied out of context and where it is irrelevant is useless.

The only reason Joe Calzaghe is not considered the best fighter of all time is boxing knowledge. Simple logic tells us he is. I sincerely hope you all realise this on Sunday.
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See I miss when you made posts like this....you need to stick to this kinda stuff instead of that xenophobic nationalistic garbage youve been spouting instead. Cause honestly, this is the CHJ I used to love.

:good

Brian123 · Apr 17, 2008

I think and hope Calzaghe will win but I too have noticed quite a few "experts" picking Hopkins the fans picking Joe.

AlonzoGreene · Apr 17, 2008

Lance_Uppercut said:

Put these guys in a steel cage fight to the death with Bigtime9, johnco, Fitzgerald, and pacdbest.. for the title of ULTIMATE NUTHUGGER!!
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Nobody is worst than Johnco. Let me reinterate......NOBODY IS WORST THAN JOHNCO!!!!:nono

Lance_Uppercut · Apr 17, 2008

AlonzoGreene said:

Nobody is worst than Johnco. Let me reinterate......NOBODY IS WORST THAN JOHNCO!!!!:nono
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Bigtime9 is the worst. At least johnco didn't post that he was a "SUPER INTELLIGENT BLACK MAN WITH 5 MASTERS DEGREES"

5 ****in Masters degrees Bigtime9 said he had.. And then he posts like a 8th grade drop out. atsch

kg0208 · Apr 17, 2008

AlonzoGreene said:

Nobody is worst than Johnco. Let me reinterate......NOBODY IS WORST THAN JOHNCO!!!!:nono
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Bigtime9 is shot, but seems to have a couple of big paydays left in him.

He is still the king of the hill though. PacD and Johnco have been ducking him for months now. Of course, he hasn't been calling them out.

Johnco won his version of the nuthugging title vacant....I don't recognize him as true champion.

Lance_Uppercut · Apr 17, 2008

kg0208 said:

Bigtime9 is shot, but seems to have a couple of big paydays left in him.

He is still the king of the hill though. PacD and Johnco have been ducking him for months now. Of course, he hasn't been calling them out.

Johnco won his version of the nuthugging title vacant....I don't recognize him as true champion.
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Brilliant. And it makes complete sense as well.

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