Boxing Monthly SAVAGES Mike Tyson

What one of those idiots wrote this?

 

Yep. I was reading BM and literally after the first paragraph, I just had to stop. It was utter bull****. Biased crap wrote by somebody who doesn't have a clue what they're talking about.

 

Seems biased to say the least. "Utter failure?" Douglas one of his biggest fights? Actually mentioning McBride as one of his big fights while spewing derision over his routing of Spinks?

He seems angry with Tyson for not being what he demands him to have been rather than judging what Tyson was about and did accomplish.

**** article, imo.

 

Great post ironchamp. :good

The author regurgitates utter nonsense, seemingly copied & pasted from ESB's resident Tyson-Haters.

 

I don't think this is a new view point at all.
Many boxing writers, including some in BM, raised similar doubts about Tyson's legacy at several junctures of his career, notably in 1996 when Holyfield seemed to have destroyed the "myth" once and for all. The 1997 bite fight, more than one writer concluded he'd thrown away any claim to greatness.
Around 1991 too, Tyson's greatness for some rested entirely on whether he would regain the undisputed championship and go back to what he'd been doing pre-Douglas.
Prison - Tyson's absence from boxing for 4 years - seemed to rebuild the legend to a large extent, even strengthen it.

With Tyson it's hard to separate the myth from the reality. It's hard to be objective because he was such a figure who ended up capturing the public's imagination, and his fighting reputation merged into his reputation as a controversial personality outside the ring.

The excerpt of the article posted here is full of some very shaky assertions, but the gist of it is the same old argument that I feel has a certain degree of merit : In short, over the long haul Tyson didn't quite stack up. He fell short, clearly.

 

While I'll agree that quite a bit of the Tyson mythos is overblown and a result of excellent marketing as much as dynamic performances, this article is way over the top and destroys its own credibility.

Tyson gets massively overrated by some for beating up on B-class fighters and gets too many excuses made for him, but this is going too far in the other direction.

 

aint this what we all want

 

What's the authors name

 

his resume is a league above your P4P no.1 Dempsey

 

i mean to even mention danny williams.....as if tyson was even close to his prime or even lennox.......thats like saying joe frazier was a bumb for getting a draw with jumbo cummings.

 

TROLLS WILL BE TROLLS.........FOREMAN HOOK....COULD U IMAGINE IF TYSON DIDNT GO TO JAIL....LENNOX WOULD HAVE TO FIGHT TYSON IN 92.......GUESS WHAT WOULDA HAPPENED TO LENNOX,,,,,,:hi::hi::hi:

 

Tyson is boxing Marmite and to do this day his name stirs many an argument.

The article is weak in the sense its examples are pretty poor.

But the questions it raises are very much debatable.

It is a Hall of Fame, rather than Greatness, thus by default Tyson is a first ballot entry.

As for his Greatness; I have written a review of what I thought for his most important bouts at the time:

I first heard of the Tyson phenomenon in early 86, and got to see him first against Marvis...

But me and my boxing friends thought it was a huge step up to fight Berbick. I think I picked him, but I figured it would a close run thing...

I thought he was going to blow away Smith, I was not really concerned about Smith's power.

I heard bad things about Thomas pre fight, and thus went for another early blow out.

Tucker looked big, but limited in the Douglas fight. Depending on how good his chin was, the fight could last two rounds, or ten.

The history with Biggs suggested a bad night for the Olympian, also Biggs seemed to cut up bad, Tyson was going to have his way with him.

Holmes was cute. I thought he was cunning enough to take Tyson the distance.

Tubbs was on a bonus to get under 235lbs... He came in at 238, so that told me how interested Tubbs was.

The Spinks fight was a distance fight. I was a bit surprised at how heavy The Jinx was, and even more surprised at how soft his body looked, but still I thought he had a real chance of causing the upset.

I was thinking Tyson was taking out Bruno real early in 89.

Williams jab could cause Tyson issues, particularly if he was as sloppy as he was against Bruno, but Williams soft chin would cost him the fight, no matter what.

Douglas was big and strong enough to give Tyson a good work out, but you knew he was going to bottle it, and become another clip in the Tyson KO reel...

I had Tyson my all time #2 Heavyweight before Douglas, and obviously if I had doubts, what was Tyson thinking? And you know Tillman was talking a good fight, surely lightening could not strike twice?

Stewart was tough, and Tyson would know he was in a battle.

Ruddock seemed to have a real soft chin, I could not seem him lasting too long with Tyson.

For the Ruddock rematch it was clear Tyson had lost a step, but still, he would have more than enough to take Ruddock out by the 8th.

McNeely seemed a good way to start his second career, I figured rust etc would mean Tyson would need a few rounds to win.

Mathis was a live opponent, but too small to give Tyson too many problems.

Tyson was meeting the new Bruno and with only two completed rounds in him, in over four years. Bruno would bully and dominate Tyson...

Seldon chin and big fight temperament would cost him against Mike.

Holyfield is a big underdog, but not a 24/1 shot, so I am putting a tenner on Commander Vander. Holyfield is tough, he will lose, but Tyson is going to here the bell for the second half of the fight.

For the rematch, it seemed clear Evander had Tyson's number, he will win again, probably inside eight this time.

After Holyfield Tyson seemed to lose interest in the sport, and by the time of the Lewis bout, it seemed to me Lewis was going to win real easy.

Post Lewis and Tyson seemed to of completely given up.

 

Of course if Tyson were British they'd lionize him as they do that GREAT middleweight Chris Eubank.

 

Benn or even Calzaghe would be a better example of that cobra imo.

Eubank has always had his share of criticism, though he has his hardcore supporters too.