Boxing myths, legends, stories and rumors

catasyou · Jul 25, 2008

Thread Stealer said:

Celebrity wives are probably used to their husbands cheating.

Honestly, when I hear about a male celebrity cheating on their wives, I just think "the girl is dumb for marrying him".
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True,true

sthomas · Jul 25, 2008

Jarrod said:

The biggest boxing myth Ive heard is that in the first meeting between Ali (then Clay) and Henry Cooper, Dundee ripped the tape around Alis glove in between rounds, causing a delay of x amount of minutes (depending on who tells the story - I was told 5 minutes), allowing Ali to recover from his knockdown at the end of the previous round before going on to win.

I know LOADS of general sports fans who dont really follow boxing that much who reckon this is a cast iron fact just because so many people have heard it then repeated it - I believed it too until a couple of years ago!
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I heard it was 3 minutes, so I watched it on u-tube and the break between rounds was something like 3-4 extra seconsd according to my watch.

Jack Presscot · Jul 25, 2008

Thread Stealer said:

I thought the story was that Diana blew Ali after the fight to console him for losing.
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Actually, it's that Duran knocked Diana Ross out before the fight, to prevent her from giving Ali a blow job.

My favorites are as follows......

1. The Oscar "Bowel Movement" incident. The legend has it that Oscar involuntarily **** hisself following the liver shot in the ninth of the Hopkins mismatch, and as he was screaming and rolling around, he lost control of his bowels, and the story is, that Bouie Fisher can be seen in the background, somewhere, dragging his shoe back and forth because he stepped in some of it.

2. Ali, was screwing his secretary for the "Thrilla in Manilla" and acting like she was his wife in front of the cameras, and his REAL wife was at home, watching in the states, and flew to Manilla to confront Ali on this and bitchslapped him for cheating on her.

3. Randall "Tex" Cobb beat most of the crowd out of his dressing room after Holmes destroyed him, to the nearest bar in the Casino.

sthomas · Jul 25, 2008

CameronC said:

Pure myth.... name one that has been put to death that was later proven innocent
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Jesus Christ

icemax · Jul 25, 2008

Sage said:

i) Duran knocking out a horse: Now obviously most hard core boxing fans, or even casual ones for that matter would have heard mention of this. What i'm curious about is does anyone know how or why duran came to knock out a horse in the first place?

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Duran didn't knock a horse out but he certainly knocked one down at MSG on 22nd June 1979. :bbb

Thread Stealer · Jul 25, 2008

There's a lot of different stories regarding Duran's alleged KO of a horse in his biography.

I'll quote them later.

Vantage_West · Jul 25, 2008

doyle

he clearly misquoted himself. he said nelson then quickly said bomber graham. and again "baz" as you call him and eubank were playing each other off. 2 showmen showing there entertainment value. it was ingle who was in the shiz, naz was just the gyms biggest name at the time.

naz broke up with ingle so later on so it had little to do with naz but more with the ingle clan.

the chris eubank herol graham

Thread Stealer · Jul 25, 2008

CameronC said:

Pure myth.... name one that has been put to death that was later proven innocent
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Leo Frank

Sage · Jul 25, 2008

Champs promise drowns in alcohol

Superbad was most talented Kronk boxer

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By Fred Girard / The Detroit News

How bad was Bernard Superbad Mays, the tragically flawed sensation who may have been the greatest prizefighter in the rich history of the Kronk Boxing Club?

So bad that he won 200 fights and lost only one as an amateur; so bad that he won 40 straight bouts and lost only one as a pro; so bad that Thomas Hearns, who went on to six world titles, nearly quit boxing rather than face the prospect of sparring with him every day at Kronk.

Bernard Mays was the king, Hearns recalled. I almost gave up boxing because I dreaded going to the gym every day. I knew Id have to get in the ring with Bernard, and it was going to be a brawl.

With all of that talent, Arthur Bernard Mays died an alcoholic pauper in 1994 at the age of 33, his brilliant talents withered.

More than any other former star from the fabled, 80-champion Kronk gym, Mays represents the tragic waste of lives and talent that have dogged many Kronk fighters.

Mays was born in 1960, the son of Victoria Mays and Prince Milton. He hated the name Arthur, and used only his middle name. When he was barely 11, an older cousin, a journeyman heavyweight fighter named Charlie Big Tuna Jordan, brought him to Emanuel Steward, the young trainer everyone was talking about at the Kronk gym. Within weeks, the quiet, angelic-looking lad was known only by the nickname he carried the rest of his too-short life Superbad.

Best of all

He was the most talented Kronk boxer of all, Steward said. He was like a legend, really.

Kronk boxers says Steward is not exaggerating.

It gives me chills just to talk about him, said Robert Tyus of Detroit, one of the original Kronk team, winner of two amateur national titles.

Superbad Mays was like Sugar Ray Robinson he had it all.

Superbad Mays was the awesomest fighter I ever saw he could devour you, said John Johnson of Detroit, who won a national amateur title under Steward. Speed is power its the punch you cant see that knocks you out and Bernard had a wicked left hook that would just take the breath from your body.

Tournament winner at 14

When he was 14, Mays swept to victory in the 106-pound class of the national Junior Olympic tournament. Two years later, he repeated in the 139-pound division. He fought more than 200 times as an amateur, losing only once, and at every fight, Steward said, the first two or three rows would be packed with managers and trainers who had brought their boxers to see Superbad Mays.

But, Bernard started disappearing on me, Steward said. Hed always been quiet, but he got moody, stopped showing up at the gym regular.

Sixteen-year-old Superbad Mays had become addicted to Colt .45 malt liquor.

Bernard and I had been drinking and smoking since we were 14, acknowledged Eric Williams. That was also about the time, family members say, Prince Milton left and stopped being any influence on his young sons life.

Former world lightweight champion Jimmy Paul said that at the 1977 Ohio State Fair national tournament Id be in bed sound asleep the night before every fight, and Bernard would be out drinking beer with the ladies all night, then come in and absolutely destroy everybody else in the tournament.

Mays was named the tournaments outstanding boxer. Later that year, he traveled to England and knocked out the European amateur champion.

Turned pro in 1978

When he turned professional in 1978, Mays parted company with Steward, who had hounded him about his drinking. His next manager, Chuck Davis, tried just as hard, and had just as little success.

Mays hired noted Oakland County attorney Elbert Hatchett to break his contract with Davis. After he did so, Hatchett, who fought as a kid and followed the game all his life, decided to manage and promote Mays himself.

We lost a ton of money, Hatchett said. Bernard fought like Joe Louis. He was a middleweight, a classic boxer, just classic. He was the first guy (who) I saw knock somebody out hitting him in the side. But he would drink beer all the time.

Roland Scott, Mays last trainer, said. That beer just tore him up. He would get absolutely smashed.

Won 40 straight

At the age of 31, Mays had fought 40 times as a pro and won them all, when everything caught up with him in a bout in California. An opponent hit Mays hard and staggered him badly, costing Mays the fight. The next day Hatchett had him in a hospital.

Mays alcohol-damaged pancreas was dangerously inflamed.

The doctor told Hatchett, Look, this condition has progressed to such a point that he takes his life in his own hands if he decides to fight,the doctor told Hatchett.

Superbad Mays would fight no more.

He stayed with his mother for a time, and after she died, a broke Mays entered the New Light Nursing Home in Detroit.

He walked in here under his own power, said administrator George Talley, and stayed for nearly a year.

In the final weeks his condition deteriorated rapidly. When I saw him there at the end, his stomach was so swollen it looked like he was pregnant, trainer Scott said.

On March 1, 1994, at 9:55 p.m., Superbad Mays heart stopped, unable to fight any longer against the crushing load of diabetes, chronic pancreatitis and chronic malabsorption syndrome.

He is buried in an unmarked grave Section 4, Row 18, grave No. 36 in Mt. Hazel, a small cemetery on Detroits far west side that has been closed for years.

Mays sister, Esther Farley of Ypsilanti, signed the death certificate.

It was a painful thing to visit Bernard in the nursing home, she said.

He was always a real charmer, a sweetheart who knows where his life might have led?
But alcoholism is a terrible disease.
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Tragic waste of talent, and Emmanuel steward and Tommy hearns would be the ones to know :-( :-(

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