I don't really hate any myths as such, but what gets me down is the amount of bull**** excuses fighters (or their fans) make after a loss. This is especially true of popular fighters. "Oh, he was unprepared." "Oh, he didn't train properly." "It was a lucky punch." "He underestimated his opponent." Etc. Yawn.
that ali was unaware of a fix in the second liston fight.. he didnt know it was on, buit hed damn sure heard the rumours..
1. a head butt caused the injuries to gerald mclellan , and subsequently the loss. 2. rabbit punches caused the same .
Well, here's the fight for anyone who hasn't seen it: [yt]DeQGaNDNi78[/yt] Dive or not, one thing's for sure: Gans didn't put up much of a fight.
Yes very similar to the Uzcudon Louis fight with Paulino on the floor pretending to be kod ,surrounded by his gold teeth.
Any "X ducked Y" involving a bad timeline or other circumstance i.e. retirement. It will happen again if Lewis decides at age 43 not to come out of retirement to fight Vitali. I've heard some argue that Marciano ducked Ali. Just stupid, stupid thinking.
i've watched it and many times and i always have the break about 65 seconds,so we'll not argue over 5 seconds! either way a great myth was allowed to grow!
I think 70 seconds is closer. The glove change is a definite myth of course. However the fact that Dundee sought extra time because his man barely knew where he was is written in stone. ps. I think this 'losing the medal on the boat' is the new 'split glove' myself. :yep
It comesd down to this: There is a lot of contemporary testimony that suggests that the fix was in. I honestly dont know the truth of the matter based on what has survived. If the fight was not on the level then a major mark against Gans's record is removed. If it was on the level then McGovern destroyed a top 3 all time lightweight while himself a natural bantem. It would be perhaps the single greatest win of all time.
"Marvin Hagler's style was always a brawler/slugger" "Meldrick Taylor is brain-damaged because of Julio Cesar Chavez, he was never any good after him" Why do people say this? I thought HBO's Legendary Nights was a good documentary, but message boards have almost gotten me to hate that show. The show simply said that afterwards, Taylor went downhill personally and professionally, and showed him speaking as a sad sign of the effects of his career on his health. Somehow to people, this translates that Chavez alone caused his brain damage, not his numerous bouts in the ring and in the gym. The show said he had diminished performance in the ring, not that he was never any good afterwards. He moved up in weight and won a world title against an undefeated champ in Aaron Davis. Some of these others I don't hate, but they should be mentioned: "Muhammad Ali was being dominated on the ropes by George Foreman until Foreman tired" This is the knockout punch in Marciano-Walcott I This content is protected Look at their positions in the ring, it clearly is not the KO punch. Another thing I never really understood were why people had Walcott so far ahead on the cards, even 8-4. I thought Rocky was doing much better than that. "James Toney landed a lucky, hail-mary punch against Michael Nunn after being dominated for 10 rounds" Toney was coming on strong in the previous 3 rounds and landing nice shots. "Teddy Atlas willed Michael Moorer to victory with his speeches" Try watching the fight in full. Atlas (one of the most overrated trainers ever) said the right things to Moorer, but Moorer went right on and slept-walked through the next rounds after those speeches. Even Lampley said "Moorer is going to get another scorching the corner from Atlas after his performance in this round"