Boxing needs new ped policy "now"

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by haglerforever, Jan 8, 2010.


  1. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    HGH increases connective tissue not muscle mass. It is more of a healing drug than performance. In fact it reduces your stamina and recovery if you over dose on it. Logically I can see why MMA people use it since the **** themselves up all the time.

    HGH is a 3rd level PED imo, which means it is only useful within a full course of roids. You use roids to build up, EPO to tear yourself down from heavy training, then use the HGH to help you heal.

    Making your argument for blood based on HGH, is futile because its show ZERO results. And it ignores the fact that urine is great at detecting everything else.
     
  2. bucktoof

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    If he wasn't on the juice, he'd look exactly how he looks right now. Seriously, it's not complicated unless you reaaaaalllly wish it to be.
     
  3. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    So on it's own HGH can't help you heal quicker, which would in turn allow you to have a more thorough camp? What if he takes nothing but HGH? Especially with moving up and gaining weight dude, HGH doesn't help with that? Not saying your wrong, it just is kinda contradicting what I have always understood about HGH :deal
     
  4. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You missed my point. The HGH would help your muscles recover, but it won't make you better from the training. That would just be upto your training. However, in and of itself, HGH could be seen as a PED, but really you gain some durability and lose stamina. It's a bad trade off. This is why it is used in a full course or roids, epo, hgh.

    Thus demanding blood just for HGH is more grandstanding and shock and awe than anything. How can you stand on the soapbox and go blood is superior at detecting HGH when it has zero results?
     
  5. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    Your making good points, and I'm not missing them. My question is this. If I train hard for 5 hours, my body needs time for my muscles to recover fully before I can train them again. It's just a natural process. If HGH allows my muscles to recover quicker, that means I can work them hard quicker and so on and so forth. No?
     
  6. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Technically is doesn't recover your muscles, it just increases the connective tissue.
     
  7. 4life

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    And what about floyd?

    Shootouts, Tax problems etc...etc....

    Please dont confuse personal life to TRAINING IN BOXING.
     
  8. LSomefun

    LSomefun Active Member Full Member

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    I agree totally its surprising the ignorance people display when discussing this topic, Its surprising people condone this nonsense.
     
  9. EpsilonAxis

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    On one hand they should. But it would probably make local fights extremely expensive.
     
  10. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    True. They should do it at the top level then. This way balance is eventually restored. If someone uses them to get to the top, they will be exposes at the top. It's not practical to regulate the ENTIRE sport but they can do the HBO/Showtime fights
     
  11. DobyZhee

    DobyZhee Loyal Member

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    its more money out the pocket for the boxers, the NCAC and for the sport itself. The only ones who cashout out of all this are the people who get paid to analyze blood.