Boxing News taking a big stance

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by lufcrazy, Jul 6, 2021.


  1. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    We were talking about when Ring magazine stripped him for inactivity/retirement.
    But I agree with your final point.
     
  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    It's certainly possible.
    No, it's possible for a fighter to be stripped, fight a close loss, and be re-introduced. I don't imagine it would be likely, but you never know.

    I think that's probably what you should do then.

    It's not arbitrary.

    It's a stated outcome.


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  3. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well, for marking as inactive each org does have their own criteria.
    It is not just stripping as inactive from some belt.
    One guy for example is Olympic medalist ( not gold ) and he had defeated lad ( boxer B ) who had beated Olympic Gold and Bronze medalist, World Championship Gold and Silver medalist.
    Guy B is also 1-1 vs enough notable during 5 years in boxing scene am boxer and as pro he is undefeated.
    Boxrec is rakning him as inactive today and he does not cry for this.
    I will lurk how long ago he had last pro boxing fight.
    Lurked, 2019 th.
    Marked as inactive.
     
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  4. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    good, some common ground.
    Dubblechin and I are probably lone voices who will eventually be swept along. You are probably right.
    Can I ask what you mean when you say the chosen number is a stated outcome?

    This might be an instance of your idiolect at work. Or perhaps mine. In the sense the choice of 19,18,17,16,15 months of not fighting is on the face of it, indeed arbitrary from an outside perspective. One organization chooses 12, another 18.

    Thank you for the clarity
     
  5. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I don't think Dubblechin wants to view strapholders as lineal either, but you could ask him.

    It's the outcome of a discussion regarding how long the period of inactivity should be.
     
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  6. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    okay, so it was arbitrary ;)

    @Dubblechin what are your views on lineal titles?
    Is it formed through an undisputed fight (combining the belts)?
    Or through when the one and two fight? Or does it vary, for example, if there is an obvious top 3, who are considered somewhat equal. It would require a round-robin?
    For example, is the winner of Fury/Wilder the man of the division, or do we need to see the winner against Joshua/Usyk to settle things?
     
  7. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Well, I don't think arbitrary means discuss, review, put it to a vote, enact. But i'm not going to argue with you about the definition of the word.
     
  8. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Have some respect for the men who risk TBI and death. **** the fans.
     
  9. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    What a terrible position to take. "**** the fans."
    No one here is disrespecting Pac or any athlete. Right now you are defending the absolute crooks that are the WBC, WBA, WBO and the IBF.
    Have some respect for the sport. And the ****ing fans! They are what make it all possible.
     
  10. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    I don't think I've once said all things are equal to be fair.
     
  11. djanders

    djanders Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There have always been other Champions, aside from the one Lineal Champion, in Boxing. Jake Kilrain was considered "World" Champion and had The Police Gazette Belt for a time while John L. Sullivan was the Lineal Champion. There have been all kinds of "World" Championship belts throughout the years.They can refuse to acknowledge them if they want. The belts have been around since the beginning of Pugilism and Boxing and will be around until the end of the sport, IMHO.
     
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  12. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    At the end of the day, there is STILL only one World Champ per division. A ton of belt holders, yeah, but ONE Champion.
     
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  13. djanders

    djanders Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Exactly correct!
     
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  14. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    And no one reigns supreme at 147.
     
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  15. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Which is why I don't see a true WW Champ until some unification happens. Champ spot is vacant in my book.
     
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