Boxing popularity about to explode, will boxing overtake UFC in the USA again?

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by bluebird, May 22, 2021.

  1. dragon666

    dragon666 Member Full Member

    Apr 28, 2021
    UFC is actually a really, really poor product. I've watched it since it's creation and it's been on the decline for a long time. A lot of UFC cards are pretty poor overall and it's more quantity over quality (you could say the same about boxing cards). I preferred Pride over UFC. The cards were better and the events felt more special.

    Boxing PPV's are usually poor products which they have no reason to be (better cards could be made). The talent is growing and is there in boxing but they can't make proper cards.

    The majority of UFC cards (including fight nights) are X fighter (a washed up fighter with tons of losses) vs Y fighter (some unknown) and most people won't care to watch them fight.

    If you look at both sports boxing has way deeper talent pool where competitive fights could be made over mma. Where you see quite a dip in up and comers coming through in their 20s compared to the younger up and coming boxing talent.

    If Danny Garcia was an MMA fighter he'd get paid around 100 to 200k a fight at best vs 1.1 mil in boxing. That's the main issue with UFC is getting the right balance in what a fighter is worth to the company. In the old days of UFC fighters could express themselves more and get additional sponsorship.
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  2. mpg

    mpg New Member Full Member

    May 10, 2015
    MMA is based almost entirely in the USA and brazil. its not global
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  3. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

    Jul 19, 2004
    MMA is global dude. UFC is in the US mostly and Brazil but the sport itself has a huge global following.
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  4. Hanz Cholo

    Hanz Cholo Boxing Addict Full Member

    Jul 11, 2012
    the company & audience is for sure global.

    they have fighters from all over the world as well.

    they have 3 African champions homie.

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    they have Aussie fighters,
    New Zealand fighters.
    Russian / Eastern European fighters
    Chinese fighters
    Canadian fighters
    Mexican fighters
    Korean fighters
    Italian fighters
    German fighters
    French fighters
  5. mpg

    mpg New Member Full Member

    May 10, 2015
    80% of their 'fighters' are US or brazil
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  6. Forza

    Forza Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Mar 18, 2012
    UFC is a passing fad, they don't even show the fights at bars anymore here. Meanwhile canelo just sold out 75k people in Texas, that counts as the USA right lol?
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  7. BUDW

    BUDW Boxing Addict Full Member

    Nov 23, 2007
    Boxings biggest problems are its crooked as hell and to many belts
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  8. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

    Jul 19, 2004
    You are clearly confusing MMA the sport with UFC the company.
  9. Sheikh

    Sheikh Well-Known Member Full Member

    Jun 4, 2007
    I guess it depends where. In Europe and UK boxing is fine. In US boxing is dying big time. There are too many sports and netflix and other apps it competes with and with apps like ESPN and DAZN ypu cant attract casual viewers. So boxing is dying. UFC is getting bigger. I dont think it will can ever take on the 3 big leagues though
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  10. sasto

    sasto Boxing Addict Full Member

    Aug 5, 2020
    MMA/UFC is in a dangerous period where the explosive growth is over and now it will be about making more profit out of what they have.

    I wouldn't be surprised if, when profits disappoint and relationships strain, you see the sport begin to fragment and go through a process similar to what boxing has gone through over the last 40 years.
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  11. vast

    vast Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Nov 27, 2010
    Until boxing makes the best vs. the best it will continue to play second fiddle to UFC.
  12. TMLT87

    TMLT87 New Member Full Member

    Feb 21, 2021
    I dont think most of the people that tune in specifically for these freakshow fights actually stick around and become long term boxing fans. In the case of stuff like Floyd/Conor and Paul/Askren a lot of those people are gonna be MMA fans anyway.
  13. TMLT87

    TMLT87 New Member Full Member

    Feb 21, 2021
    The UFCs roster is very international these days, most of their current champs arent from the US or Brazil. Before the pandemic the UFC was holding events outside of the US in double figures every year. Then theres One FC based in Singapore, Rizin in Japan, ACA, M1, RCC in Russia, KSW in Poland etc.

    And why did you put "fighters" in quotations? arent they fighters? isnt that term more applicable to them than it is to boxers?
    Last edited: May 23, 2021
  14. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

    Sep 16, 2020
    boxing never will be 100% ultimate combat sport and this now is damn worse than mma, kb , mt and grappling.

    These holy judges cards and boring, predictable comments in forums, yt and boxing forums, commentators and so on.

    Boxing is to build a brand and sadly now we do have things like these: big event, undercards should be good and enough competitive despite yeah, we do know about A and B side and who is match make here to win this one till boring condition.
    Now: prospect vs TBA till almost last day, prospect vs even 0-4 lad after beated up 0-10 lad.

    All these comments and score cards are too damn boring till sleep. Including forums comments.

    Pro boxing by 90% sadly is very predictable and very boring here.

    xx numbers of champs are milking their belt and all this biased stuff, it is shame and boring during decades more and more boring.
    Predictable and boring.
  15. TMLT87

    TMLT87 New Member Full Member

    Feb 21, 2021
    It started exploding in popularity like 15 years ago, thats one long lasting fad.