Boxing stance for orthodoz fighters...

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  1. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    I think I get it now. He wants you to have a wider karatish type of stance?
     
  2. Machine

    Machine Active Member Full Member

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    You ****ing kidding? You must have seen boxing before.
     
  3. mrtony80

    mrtony80 Likes thick chicks Full Member

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    I'm embarrassed to say I have no idea what "Karatish" is...
     
  4. Machine

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    I'm having trouble understanding exactly what you're saying but it sounds a little bit like what we call in Australia, parallel punching and diagonal punching. Does that sound familiar? It's probably called different things in different countries. I can't be bothered explaining it but it's about moving the opposite foot and hip to what you normally would with each hand whilst coming forward punching or backwards. It's been big in the amateurs in the last 6 or 7 years that I've noticed. Most of the cubans like Gamboa and Rigondeaux used it a lot and most of the Eastern Europeans. It's unorthodox insofar as it goes against the traditional way of moving your feet and hip with your punches, and it is only used in certain situations, but it is very widespread in the amateurs. But with that style, the way I know it, even though you may bring your back foot up to almost parallel with your lead foot whilst moving forward in the process of a combination you wouldn't cross it over so that your back foot is now your lead foot but your upper body is still in the orthodox position. The way you're describing it is that from your hips down you're in a southpaw position and from the hips up you're in an orthodox position. If this is the case, I've never heard or seen anyone using this style and yes it is mega unorthodox.
     
  5. Boxed Ears

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    Yeah, :yep. It really looks in this clip like he's thinking 'Ha! This guy is ****!'
     
  6. The Ring

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    I'm in my rec room trying to move the way you are describing and I don't even see how it's anatomically possible. Your body would be all contorted.

    If you are pivoting to the right in an orthodox stance, I suppose that can be seen as "leading with the right", but it doesn't seem like that's what you're talking about.

    Boxing is a dangerous sport, if things aren't working out with your trainer, you might want to consider looking elsewhere. The fact that you came here as opposed to just asking him is troubling to say the least.
     
  7. mrtony80

    mrtony80 Likes thick chicks Full Member

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    You described it best...from the legs down, he wants me to be southpaw, from the waist up, orthodox...
     
  8. mrtony80

    mrtony80 Likes thick chicks Full Member

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    I did ask him about it, and he just says "trust me." When I ask the other guys in the gym, they say "trust him, he knows what he is doing"...
     
  9. J.R.

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    The ****?! So let me get this straight... he wants you to lead with the right foot, but at the same time contort your upper body so that your left hand is your lead?? :huh
     
  10. Leon

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    I get it now. When you keep your head facing towards your opponent you're in orthodox, but if you turn your upper body 90 degrees to the right you're basically squared up with the right foot in front.
     
  11. Machine

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    That sir, is ****ing crazy. But the part that really baffles me about this, if the orthodox/southpaw hybrid stance isn't already bizarre enough, is that it seems to me that you're telling me that from this stance he wants you to step with your back foot first with the punch rather than the lead foot. If this is the case then I'm with The Ring on this one, that is bordering on physically impossible and dangerous. Imagine sparring like that, you'd be unconscious within 30 seconds. Be funny to watch though. Get your trainer to explain the rationale behind it and get back to us. If you don't like the reasoning behind it I think you should go to a different gym.
     
  12. mrtony80

    mrtony80 Likes thick chicks Full Member

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    Oh man, I'm getting a headache trying to explain this...I can't figure out why everybody is having such a tough time trying to grasp this...lets try one more time...

    ...I don't move my right foot first when moving forward. I still move my left first when moving forward. The only difference is - this guy is telling me to PLACE my right foot slightly in front of the left while in an orthodox stance.
     
  13. Sounds like a great way to get KTFO.


    Tell this guy to find you one successful pro boxer using that stance, then when he fails, demand a refund.
     
  14. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    How the hell are you supposed to be mobile like that?:huh
     
  15. mrtony80

    mrtony80 Likes thick chicks Full Member

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    I don't know if you read all the other posts on this thread, Crax, but I think there is an outside chance that he is showing me some awkward ****, so when it comes to the real thing...as I explained earlier, my uncle used to make me play basketball with a flat ball and a messed up hoop...his reasoning was, if you can become good using **** like that, when it comes to using the real thing...

    ...as I also said earlier, this guy does has some credibility as a trainer. He trained the Seth guy that KO'd Kimbo Slice, and I believe he had a hand in training Lou DuValle (the 1st guy to knock Roy down)...I have only slightly questioned this guy regarding my stance so far, but when I go in later, I might press him more on it.