I'm a huge fan of boxing but most participants in combat sports pay a huge price at some point. How much fame and fortune makes it worthwhile?
Boxrec lists close to 1300 active heavyweights. If Miller is better than 99% of heavyweights, that means there are 13 heavyweights max out there who would beat him; that would actually mean short changing Miller and giving the benefit of the doubt to unproven prospects like Dychko. The reality of the situation is that a 300+ pound fighter with Miller’s talent, stamina, and agility has never been seen before.
i think it goes with survival. its an instinct we are getting slowly bred out of our genetics as that instinct becomes less and less necessary for our survival. thousands of animals of all species share an instinct to fight competitors, is bred into us also. most of us fall somewhere in the middle of that curve, but there are people on both ends. some people love to fight, others lie down and expose their belly.
Ya I suppose if we count the near 300 people who have literally never won a professional fight before and consider them in the mix.... and then the other however many hundres of fighters that have 1 win and15 plus losses, the statement becomes fairly accurate. .... For hair splittings sake... Fury AJ Wilder Whyte Parker Povetkin Chisora Ortiz Pulev Dubois Ruiz Jr Joyce Breazeale Hughie thats 14 names relatively off the top of my head who I would pick to beat Miller.... if I went down the lists of heavyweights looking into the undefeated prospects I dont know as well but would pick over Miller after watching them Im sure I could get to 20 rather easily. .... But that doesnt go against your point, as obviously even 20 fighters better than Miller doesnt put much of a dent into the statistical claim when sampling from a sample size as large as 1300.... a 1300 that has hundreds, and hundreds, and hundreds of professional record padders. .... So sure, I'll agree to your statement. When including all listed boxers, he probably beats very close to 99% of them. But again, like I said in my previous post, that doesnt really have any relevance to my point, imo.
I think you’re underrating Miller and what his size means. Hughie Fury has done exactly nothing impressive in his career and isn’t even better than Dinu. Chisora is a glorified top 30 heavyweight and not much different from a typical Miller opponent. Andy isn’t big enough and would get worn down. Breazeale and Whyte likely would gas after winning some rounds. Pulev, Povetkin, and Ortiz are better but are also old. He’s a live underdog against all of the top of the division due to his size and otput. He can wear fighters down with superior skill with pressure and strength.
Everything is easier when you have top tier talent in it, but it doesn't make it easy. Camp is grueling and boxers have to claw themselves to the very top before they make any decent money. Then there is the mental side of it. People lose motivation and hunger over time, unless you're a special type of person. You won't become a top boxer in the first place if you don't have the motivation to become the best and is just looking to cash out. Getting hit in the head is never easy. Those hits mess up your mind and alters you.
Ya man we just disagree drastically on Millers quality. Hes not on Whytes level.... and hes nowhere near a live underdog against AJ. He wouldnt win once out of 10 tries against AJ or Fury, imo. Hes a manufactored fall guy for the top guys in the division, nothing more imo. Time will tell though. If he proves me wrong and actually gets one or two quality (top 5) type wins I'll admit I misjudged him. This AJ fight will reveal a lot.
I don’t think you’re taking into account what Miller’s size and pressure do to the opponent’s stamina. Reference points for Miller are none. He’s the first guy like that. Whyte can barely do 12. He’d end up tko’d by Miller.
I think you underrate Miller. Imo he would go in as a favorite against all fighters on the entire planet except maybe 5 or so heavyweights. But let's assume there are 20 or so heavyweight fighters that are better than Miller(there isn't, not even close) that would still mean he is close to being in the top 1% in the ENTIRE world. Getting 5 million dollars when you are in the top 1% in the ENTIRE world in something seems like you are underpaid to me especially if you have to get hit in the face. Most other professions where you are top 1% pay far more than 5 million. I mean we know how much guys in the NBA, MLB, NFL are making. We know how much CEOs of fortunate 500 companies are making. Sure it may seem that Miller and Garcia are on easy street but that's because they are in the top 1% in the ENTIRE WORLD in their profession unlike the other 99% of people in the world. But you hear this a lot when people compare themselves to pro athletes. I think people forget even the "worse" pro athletes are still some of the very best in the world. Take the NBA, there are only 301 NBA players out of all the millions of people in the world that play basketball, professionally or otherwise. So even the bottom tier NBA guys are some of the best basketball players in the world. On the other hand most people overestimate themselves. You maybe the best guy or gal in your office but that's about it, lol. You probably aren't even top 30 in your city let alone the ENTIRE world. People seem to forget that though. Heck most folks don't even personally know anyone that's top 1% in the world in any profession. And no shaking the hand of the CEO of your fortunate 500 company one time doesn't count.
Look at Charles Martin. He got a much undeserved shot at a title against a guy he was supposed to get beat by, but then a freak accident happens and he wins on technicality. Then gets millions next to fight Joshua. Lucky *******
Miller is a very good fighter, he's definitely among the top 6 heavyweights in the world, he'd beat Whyte, Chisora or Parker easily, and in sparring it seemed like he handled his Polish best buddy pretty easily as well. Hughie Fury. Bro, come on. Oh, and one more thing Gents: "You play basketball, football or baseball, you don't play boxing."
This. People forget that the top level guys in boxing like Mayweather, PAC, Joshua make getting multi million dollar paydays look easy, but they are at the top of their sport and also made themselves extremely marketable, which is a job in itself. Also, as a person that tried their hand at making it in the NBA almost 20 years ago I can confirm that it’s extremely hard to get drafted and almost impossible to get picked up outside of the draft unless you’re just an amazing player even by NBA standards.
