Boxing Training myths

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by rainmaker, May 27, 2010.


  1. lefty

    lefty Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Okay get ready for this, to be a good puncher you have to, okay get ready........ know how to punch!!! You know technique and coordination? Strength and power are two seperate things, when you are lifting those heavy weights combine them with plyometrics and the problem is solved. Plyometric exercises should be part of any boxers workout anyway.
     
  2. Windigo

    Windigo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    By meathead I think you are referring to bodybuilders. Bodybuilders dont train low rep hightweight. They train mostly in the 8-12 range and they and they lift slowly to exhaust the muscles. Train slow fight slow.
     
  3. vibit

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    I agree with Lefty and Windigo.

    This reminds me of one of the guys in our gym who deadlifts 500+ lbs for reps. When I saw him spar I wasn't impressed. He punched like a five year old. On top of that, he was so tense, he tired himself out in half a round.

    I also noticed that every time he's on the heavy bag he tries to push the bag. But since I can't deadlift 500+lbs for reps, I didn't feel I was qualified enough to correct his punching technique.
     
  4. Roland Deschain

    Roland Deschain New Member Full Member

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    They can't punch with any particular power other than their brute strength for the same reason they couldn't hit a home run to save their lives. They don't know how to punch properly so they do not know how to correctly use their leverage the same way you wouldn't expect them to be able to know how to swing a bat to hit a home run. On topic: I found the article to be mostly on point. Most boxers I know have the most unscientific perceptions about weight training, nutrition, how sex factors into performance and all sorts of nonsense.
     
  5. vibit

    vibit Active Member Full Member

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    Now that we're on the subject. If someone were to have a fight tomorrow, should he take the night off to rest, or screw 10 ladies in a row?

    Does having sex increase performance in the ring? And if so, how much is too much? Or maybe just choke the ****** if it's all the same.
     
  6. luciuslim

    luciuslim Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i have always been thought that big muscles have very little to do with punching power (but they do help with clinching) and that serious weight training was kind of a waste of time for a boxer.
     
  7. Windigo

    Windigo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well deadlifting is an exercise in ass and lower back power but technique never transfers between skills. Similar isn't good enough. Movements have to be exact. Correct his technique if he makes an issue of it knock him out. But if he reps 500+ for reps that didn't come naturally he is probably more open to tutelage than you think.
     
  8. Windigo

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABZu5v2JPuE[/ame]

    He benches 400lbs. Strength does transfer but you have to know how to do so.
     
  9. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You can turn a guy into an alright puncher, but a great puncher is born first of all.

    Secondly, why do all the best fighters run long distance routinely? For example, guys like Mayweather, Calzaghe, Hopkins, Marquez, Mosley, ****...Ray Robinson, Marciano...

    Etc...

    I don't remember Marciano lookin like a crackhead.

    WTF is this guy talkin about?
     
  10. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't quite deadlift that much, but I do lift over 400 lbs and I know that I can punch, BUT there is a guy at the gym that lifts way more weight thn me, and he hits like mosquito bites.

    And he works with me looks at me, sees me all the time, and he still can't punch.

    A puncher is born. I teach people all the time how to punch all the time. And they make improvements, but unless they a serious puncher to start with it ain't nothin much.

    Like I said, a puncher is born.
     
  11. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  12. Amin

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    I'd say screw 10 ladies in a row. That way, if you lose, you still got laid like a mother****er.
     
  13. Kevin_Wright

    Kevin_Wright King of Awesomeland Full Member

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    Since no one can agree on wether to run LSD or short and quick. I just do both, 20 minutes of each.

    Although sometimes when i am on the bicycling i find myself thinking "this is going to do nothing for me in a boxing ring." hm...
     
  14. lefty

    lefty Boxing Addict Full Member

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    These guys don't run long distance per se, they usually run 3 to 10 miles including hills varying their pace. The point is to lose weight and create a strong aerobic base as they are/were fighting 12 or 15 rounds. You train for what your sport demands. As an amateur boxer you need aerobic fitness for recovery between rounds but since you are only fighting three rounds the emphasis should be on anaerobic fitness. You can build both by doing interval training, it's basically a waste of time jogging for an hour and if you do it regularly your body is gonna adapt by getting rid of your fast twitch muscles. Fast twitch muscle fibre is for speed and power so if you're boxing you might want to keep those.

    Saying punchers are born is untrue, the only difference between people is if they're more genetically inclined to be a sprinter or a long distance runner, again this has to do with muscle fibres and relates to how naturally explosive a person is. However the way you train has a large impact on development of muscle fibres so it limits the impact of that factor. Correct technique is the key to punching power, the proper activation of muscles in the chain delivered with good balance and leverage. Coordination and timing. There are numerous factors to punching power but to say punchers are born is just a matter of belief with no science behind it, there is plenty of evidence to say punching power can be developed.
     
  15. HENDO

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    What factors develop a puncher?

    I've seen guys who are very weight room strong, develop good technique, but still not be able to punch hard.

    And I've seen guys with relatively minimal weight room strength that get one punch knockouts in the amateurs.

    I've seen guys walk in with no neck, and still they can't punch at all, despite how long they've been going to the gym and taught the proper technique. They make some improvements, and you can make them a good puncher.

    But a great puncher is born. I don't give a damn if the guy has no technique or not, he walks in th gym, and he an make it sound like some gun shots.

    That's a real puncher, and technique only makes them better. But great is great.