Boxing vs MMA in a fight Who Would Win? Best Explanation

Dude?

 

Last fight I was in went like this:

A drunk guy tried to fight another guy on the sidewalk. Me and a few other people happening by broke it up and tried to calm him down, then we all went our separate ways.

A few hours later this drunk guy and his 8 friends (who didn't seem to be drunk and were basically trying to keep him in line) ran into me again. The guy recognized me as he walked by and said some stuff, but I was just like 'yeahhh dude have a good night' because I figured he'd walk on if I ignored him. This appeared to **** him off because he turned around and got all up on me talking crazy stuff and threatening me.

I stopped and apparently his friends had kept walking so he was just there on the sidewalk with me, with some of the guys in front of us walking away and a few behind us talking to some other people. I was like 'alright mother****er, either hit me or get out of my face and leave me alone because you're pissing me off and wasting my life.'

He chose to hit me lol. Right hand suckerpunch to my jaw. I rolled sideways with it and he turned around to walk away, apparently thinking I was going to fall over. I went after him (I wanted to take him down and hurt him, but I was extremely conscious of punching him because he was way drunk, I didn't want to kill him, and my coach is all about not fighting or you get kicked out). He turned around and dove straight in for a double-leg, and I was surprised by how quick and coordinated it was. (I have a feeling he was a wrestler, just from how strong he was on the ground and how he suddenly became coordinated when he shot in.)

I sprawled and put him into an arm-in guillotine, then I fell backward to put it in deeper and hopefully slam his head on the concrete. I couldn't get my legs around so we ended up in half-guard. At this point I didn't have it in deep enough to choke him, and his left arm was still free, so I trapped it and yelled to his friends (one of whom was kicking me in the back of the head) to get ahold of him because I didn't want to kill him. Two of them came up and grabbed him and were yelling at me to let him go, so I did. They immediately released him and he headbutted me in the face, splitting my nose. He tried it again but I blocked it with my forehead, jabbed him in the nose, grabbed him behind the head and stood up. I went to uppercut him in the balls, but his friends had ahold of me and by then we were actually on the street with cars driving by.

They split us up just as some security guards came up, and I told them I was fine with it and walked off. Apparently a bunch of people in a house across the street were watching and were all excited about how I 'Totally kicked his ass,' even though I hadn't really done anything but try to hold him until someone could break it up.

I walked away with a broken nose, bleeding from the back of my head and my nose. He walked away with nothing.

This is all to say that I could have prevented this damage if I had simply punched the ****er instead of going to the ground and trying to take the nonviolent route. If it had just been me and him, it would have surely ended with him getting choked out. But in a real fight, with friendly and nonfriendly people all around you trying to intervene, groundfighting is just stupid. If you're in serious danger, your best and safest bet is to damage the other guy as quick as possible. I can't tell you how many fights I've seen end as soon as one guy eats a solid punch. Most folks just aren't used to it. And for those who are...you probably shouldn't be fighting them in the first place.

 

And to answer the topic:

A boxer will always beat an MMA fighter under boxing rules. The only possible exception would be if the boxer was extremely shot/chinny--think Roy Jones. Boxing is too much of a science and requires far too much experience to compete in at a high level.

An MMA fighter will usually beat a boxer under MMA rules. A possible exception would be a fighter like Liddell, who would be absolutely annihilated by any competent boxer. The difference here is that a boxer could conceivably train certain MMA concepts in order to be more competitive--he could develop a good takedown defense, he could work on leg kicking, throwing knees. He could work on escaping from the ground.

He wouldn't have to master anything, he'd just have to learn enough to counteract the strengths of the MMA fighter. Say he had a year to train, or even 3-6 months. He'd have a decent shot against most guys. An MMA fighter going to boxing would have to train for years to even come close to competing with a top boxer. This is because boxing is a one-dimensional science that takes years of refinement and perfection to work at high levels. MMA is multi-faceted, and a fighter who is inferior in one skillset can compensate in others. This is what makes MMA so exciting, and it's also one of the reasons that there aren't really any undefeated MMA fighters. Strategy plays a huge role, whereas boxing is usually decided by skill level alone.

In a street fight, there's no telling what can happen. I'm giving the advantage to the MMA fighter every time though. If they end up on the floor, he's most likely to know what to do. No boxer is going to box in a streetfight. You don't set your man up or tire him out. You don't stick and move. A boxer is going to try to end the fight with a series of quick, hard, decisive blows. Failing that, he has to rely on what he knows of fighting in general from his life experiences, which is going to vary greatly from fighter to fighter.

Furthermore, his style will make a difference. Andre Dirrell and Chad Dawson would not ever win on the street. Carl Froch, Edwin Valero, Mike Tyson, etc. would all have decent chances, because they go straight for the kill and/or like to fight in close.

The MMA fighter, if he can get ahold of the boxer, withstand his initial shots, and take him down SHOULD win. But again, a lot of external factors come into play. Are people trying to break the fight up? Where is the fight happening?

But regardless, in a street fight between an MMA fighter and a boxer who both have equal experience levels (and even if the boxer has more experience, up to a certain point), the MMA fighter has an advantage. IF he's got a good ground game. Again, Chuck Liddell would be injured severely. GSP, BJ Penn, etc. would have a huge advantage.

 

I disagree. A striking oriented MMA would eat a boxer alive. Leg kick him for days while outta range and the boxer loses his footwork and power from the ground up. All you gotta do is fight smart. If the MMA gets too close, elbows and knees would have a much higher chance of connecting compared to short punches. Not to mention something like a Muay Thai clinch.

If the fight ever went to the ground, they wouldn't know what the hell to do anyways. Have you seen UFC 1 with the Cruiserweight and Gracie? The average boxer would have no game at all.

I don't even know why this thread got to be three pages, there is no way a boxer would win in a streetfight against the average MMA unless he catches a MMA with a lucky punch. A boxers stance warrants easy takedowns, and any boxer wouldn't know how to check a leg kick even if they saw it coming. All MMA have ground game, a boxer would be in a helpless situation unless he catches the fighter coming in.

Boxer v MMA is like playing flag football with someone who is playing full contact with you.

 

Sugar Ray Robinson never knew how to check a leg kick, fight off his back or even on top. He couldn't stuff a takedown or take someone down if he wanted to. He had no submission skills or submission defense.

You see where I'm going with this?

In a fight with a top MMA, or mid level for that matter, he would get beaten in so many different ways.

 

Sugar Ray Robinson's style wasn't suited to real fighting. LaMotta would have a much better chance, imo.

 

:-(

 

How so? Because he was a brawler in the ring

He would be more reckless than anything, making it easier on whichever MMA he would be fighting. What did LaMotta know about fighting on the ground and against someone who has a whole lot more in their game than throwing a fist?

 

That's pretty good.. But you're reaching in this comparison like many others do on this site :good

 

I don't deny that BJJ is effective.

It's just that you have to sacrafice dignity and manhood in order to win a fight.

Think back when you fought in highschool. If you were rolling around people would be screamin...

Get up *****.

What a *****.

Hit him!

Know what I'm sayin?

 

I hear that.. But even if you're standing.. A MMA is going to headkick you and leg kick you while the boxer is out of range. The boxer could get close, but catch some elbows, or find himself in a clinch looking at knees smash into his mouth and nose.

If you're on you're feet.. The MMA is going to win.