Boxing vs MMA in a fight Who Would Win? Best Explanation

On The Money · Aug 1, 2017

lufcrazy said: ↑

Walking away is always the best choice. Only when that choice is removed should combat take place.
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Agreed dude.

mark ant · Aug 10, 2017

Colpolite said: ↑

People had been saying this and saying that but here is the best explanation of it.

In a boxing ring under Queensberry rules, the boxer wins every single time (unless the Jiu Jitsu fighter is also a boxer).

Under Jiu Jitsu match rules, the Jiu Jitsu artist will win every time too (unless the boxer is also a Jiu Jitsu artist).

Its like asking who will win, a tennis player or a badminton player? The answer is, whose rules and whose game?

Outside the usual venues, the question gets harder...

If they are going to fight in another venue (MMA) they now need to become MMA fighters, as neither of their training will prepare them adequately for mixed match rules. The Jiu Jitsu artist must now study striking, and the boxer must study wrestling, and they both must study MMA rules.

The one who does the most preparation and training to become the best MMA artist wins every time.

Now, in a rule-free environment, the question is impossible.....

If it is a street fight, they both lose badly, as the police arrest them for behaving like idiots.

If there are no police to arrest them, and other hooligans don't intervene and beat them both up for being such losers, then the one who is the dirtiest would win, as there are no rules on the street, no referees, and anything goes. The one who strikes first with a weapon wins. If the jiu jitsu artist wacks the boxer over the head with an iron bar, he wins. If the boxer bites the jiu jitsu artist in the groin, he wins.

But even then, they still both lose, as their sporting self discipline would kick in and they would avoid the street fight in the first place.

Anyone who is really skilled will avoid a real fight at all costs.

And, if you are asking who would win in a hypothetical rules-free environment with no weapons, it is still hard to say.

Outside the ring, challenging a boxer to a fight is a risky business. He has the best physical conditioning, and without any gloves on, he will be faster and hit unbelievably hard. He might break his hand, but he only needs one shot to do a lot of damage.

The same is true of a Jiu Jitsu artist. If he is allowed to employ his skills, he will have an immediate advantage too.

With two trained individuals of equal skill, strength and size, and determination, the one who is allowed to use his techniques first will usually win.

There have been some historical matches where grapplers and boxers have fought, and it has always been inconclusive because of the rules.

There are always rules. Lots of them. There has to be to protect the fighters and to protect the organizers against lawsuits.

A classic example is "Judo" Gene Lebell versus boxer Milo Savage. Watch the match on video. Gene wins with a choke. But, you can see in the video that Gene has his hands full even against this older, smaller, and retired boxer. The boxer is far too strong for even a master Judo expert to instantly pin, throw or choke as many might believe.

The important thing to notice is the gloves. Gene is wearing none, so he has full mobility. However, the rules stated that Savage had to wear his big puffy mitts.

Can you guess why Lebell did not want to be hit bare knuckle? If the boxer was allowed to fight glove free, he could grab and hold properly. A couple of bare-knuckle punches from a retired pro boxer, even a smaller one, might have gotten Gene's attention, and his dentist too.

A boxer might win against a grappler if he attacks quickly with knockout punches or stays at a distance and uses a jab.

A grappler might win against a boxer if he can get him off his feet quickly.

Other posts have stated that the jiu jitsu artist will always win, and there is a sentiment that a grappler will always win against a pure striker.

That is certainly true in a venue that favors wrestling, such as UFC (started by the Gracies, who created the venue and rules, and....surprise....won).. However, even in the octagon, the jiu jitsu advantage has been eclipsed by wrestlers who have cross trained in boxing ("ground and pound").

The rules and venue dictate the training and skills. In lieu of rules, the individuals and host of variables to numerous to calculate with any certainty determine th outcome.

One is the quality of the boxer. No prime professional boxer has ever fought in UFC. Why would they? They would take a massive pay cut.

Dempsey destroyed the wrestler who challenged him. On the other hand, Andre the Giant threw Wepner over the top rope like he was a child. Inoki crab walked the whole match with Ali to avoid getting hit. Former boxer Butterbean fights in MMA with some good results, but was hardly a class boxer.

A messy business figuring the truth here.

The Romans had the right idea. Keep boxers and wrestlers separate because they are two different sports altogether.

Anyway, who would I bet on myself?

I would pick the tennis player. They can be really mean.

Cheers!
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You can`t compare Wepner to Ali and Andre wrestled in the old WWF which was rigged! Ali`s match was at first set to be a staged affair with Ali losing but a week before the farce Ali changed his mind and brought in all these stupid rules and limitations it was a complete joke!

mark ant · Aug 14, 2017

lufcrazy said: ↑

Walking away is always the best choice. Only when that choice is removed should combat take place.
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I have had street fights and I didn`t break my hands!

BCS8 · Aug 10, 2017

mark ant said: ↑

I have street fights and I didn`t break my hands!
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Judo ftw?

mark ant · Aug 14, 2017

ontheup said: ↑

I cannot be arsed to explain why but a top MMA guy on the street absolutely destroys a top boxer on the street. There is only one way a boxer can really win and that is to land the first punch and i mean a very good first punch, after that it is a take down by the MMA fighter and the boxer gets either tapped out or he blacks out, simple as that.
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Are you trying to say MMA fighters can take bare knuckle punches well or that a boxers punch wouldn`t be as hard as MMA punches? Remember MMA punches are effected by smaller 4 ounce gloves.

mark ant · Aug 14, 2017

BCS8 said: ↑

Judo ftw?
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No I punched some Irish guy in the face, I didn`t even feel and I punched people at school! Have you never seen a street fight where someone doesn`t break there hands? LOL!

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