Boxing-XPERT Fred Roach On Tua: “He Could’ve Been a ATG, Would Have Outlasted Tyson!!

n amazing quote . sig worthy . y didn't lewis , ibeabuchi and rahman manage 2 do it ? because they were no tokyo douglas fighting against a shot tyson of course , but still , shot tyson is still better than prime tua , so how cum they didn't do it ? i guess it was because tokyo douglas > all of them .
and holyfield was a much bigger puncher than lewis , ibeabuchi n rahman .

even if tyson's elbows landed on tua , he'd still b able and will only land 1 punch 2 put tyson down and if tyson got up , tua knew what 2 do .

just not enough 2 even floor him . lewis landed his ryte on tua , did tua go down ?

that short and not so fat midget had punching power and durability advantages over tyson . tua was a garbage truck , ruddock couldn't stop tommy morison either , so what's your point ? he was almost kod by n ncient james smith and doesn't have many claims 2 glory .

then i guess i have 2 praise his chin more than i do :yep , lewis , ibeabuchi , rahman , maskaev , david izon , darroll wilson , cisse salif all teeing off on a guy and he takes it all flush on d chin and doesn't even go down , except from a moment @ d end of Rahman #2 which may b considered as a punch after d bell , no blame on rahman .

that guy whom was stopped by david jaco , tommy morison and didn't last a round vs lennox lewis must have been n all time great , no doubt . tua would've also been kod in 1 by lewis , stopped by tommy morison and wouldn't stand a chance @ standing up 2 david jaco's power , same with d guy whom was stopped by mike white , david bey , tony tucker , evander holyfield and lou savaresse :yep

your posts r getting typical by d day

 

Anyone could be hurt by Tua's lefthook, but he wasnt particularly good with anything else. He didnt fight well inside, didnt throw a good right hand and basically was fairly slow and predictable. Tyson in his prime would not be getting hit by a one armed puncher like Tua and could really hurt Tua himself with a better overall offensive attack. Lewis made Tua a plodding offenseless bowling ball because he hit him hard. Also, I wouldnt discount Tysons chin in his prime. Tyson could easily take the same shots that Ibeabuchi, Jeff Wooden, Rahman and Byrd took, etc.

 

Because Lennox Lewis is a safety first fighter who takes no risks, he was content on getting a decision rather than take any risks and get himself sparked. Douglas beat the **** out of Tyson, i dont think he would fear the one dimensional Tua. Same as Holyfield, Holyfield brings war, hes the complete opposite of Lewis. Holyfield doesnt punch hard, but his punches are very very accurate. AND Hes dropped Bowe, Mercer, Tyson....guys with granite chins. Holyfield also beat the **** out of Tua in sparring as well.

Lewis landed one right hand and Tua went into a shell. Tyson was knocked out but still traded with Lewis. Totally different mindsets between the 2 fighters AND tyson despite being way past his best still at least won one round against Lewis. Tyson would outland Tua at will. Tuas got nothing to hold Tyson off him. even Douglas, Holyfield and Lewis knew it was wise to keep Tyson away. Tyson can take a punch as shown throughout his career, Tua has a lucky punch and thats about it...since when did anyone KO Tyson with a lucky punch? if Ruddock couldnt, Tua aint.

His durabilty is based on what? Going to war with Ike and Rahman? well Tyson fought Ruddock twice and didnt come close to going down, he walked through Ruddocks punches, same thing he would do to Tua. Ruddock was finished after having the **** beat out of him for 19 rounds against Tyson and then Lewis put the final nail in ruddocks coffin. By the time he fought Morrison he was washed up and was coming off a long layoff. Tua doesnt exactly have any claims to glory either, what exactly did he achieve? Michael Moorer has a glass jaw anyway.

As stated before, Lewis hit Tua with one right hand and after that Dave went into his little shell. Rahman, Maskaev, Izon, Wilson, Salif, will never top anybodys 'hardest punchers' list and none of them couldnt carry Tysons spitbucket.

Lewis realised the threat of ruddock and blasted him out early and as stated earlier Ruddock was already finished after going through 19 brutal rounds with Tyson. David Jaco didnt stop Ruddock, Ruddock had an astma attack....you havent watched the fight have you? I told you about Morrison earlier

No no no, your stupidity is in a realm of its own, mere mortals like me cannot enter it. Your the Supreme Overlord

 

Lewis was never a safety 1st fighter , except only 1 fytte , which happened 2b against david tua , after being shaken by a graze of tua's hook in d 1st rd so i give tua at least 1 rd vs lewis as well .

tua did not even connect full force and 4d 1st tyme lewis went in2 a shell , so ?
what's your pt ? dat airon myke would've went outt on his shield ?
dat never happened 2 tua in d pro's , not even close .

as much as it may look stupid on paper , tua was past his prime as well by d tyme he fought lewis . he endured wars vs ibeabuchi , maskaev , rahman and izon and then lots of rds against others also and then training and sparring 4 all of those fights and others . assuming tua was defenseless as u claim he was , it
means that tua was actually shot going in against lennox lewis . remember , u consider a 22 slikk tyson as past his prime , y not consider a 28 yrs old "defenseless" lazy phatt ass man shott ?
i however , don't think that he was shot vs lewis , only past his prime , nor do i think that eisen mykke was past his prime going in vs douglas @ a mere 24 yrs old .

until

oh , now u reminded me :yep

and now u reminded me again , my memory is startin 2 betray me i guess

tua was a very lucky guy :yep

who did ruddock manage 2 stop ? throught his entire career ? ruddock wasn't even d best of tyson's victims , neither d hardest hitting of them .

i don't feel like repeating it here 4u , but i stopped mentioning moorer in my answer 4 this more than a year ago .
not that i think that he really had a glass jaw .

lewis went in2 a shell as well , and only did it against tua .
rahman hit at least as hard as ruddock , was more durable , but didn't like using hooks 4 some reason .

i watched it , i also didn't forget it . but n atg like ruddock whom went 19 rds with airon maik must have bin eibel 2 knokk e bam laik jaco aus . even if he had n asthma attack .

ai sink ai shood put sam of yor pousts in mai signachur . bikoz dei ar veri intiligent

 

Yes, prime for prime, Tua might well have KO'd Tyson.
It's a matter of styles.

These guys would have to trade with each other.
Yeah, Tyson had better speed and skill - but that speed and skill wasn't geared towards slugging it out with a stockier version of himself. Tyson was designed to swarm over tall upright boxers.

Against Tua he's going to run in to a blockier version of himself. A brick wall that won't back up and punches short powerful hooks. Yes, Tua might have a little less hand speed, and less refined skills, but not necessarily enough of a gap to make him an easy mark.
This would be a slugging match, and whoever takes the best shot will win.

 

Tyson's defense is the reason it's hard to imagine Tyson getting knocked out.

 

This can't be true!!!

 

I still don't believe you!!!:|

 

tua is not in the same class as a prime tyson