Boxing's Iron Men: How did they win 100 Fights?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by ricardinho, Mar 16, 2010.


  1. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I dont see why fighters dont do it. It gets them to pad their record, a small fight for fans to look forward to and to be honest, their sparring would probably be tougher. They should just treat it as another sparring day.

    Not every fight has to be PPV and mega, as long as they are having 2-3 big fights a year, I dont care if they fight 10 bums in the same year.
     
  2. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    I never said it was a great win but Mamby was a decent fighter with an awkward style who later became a titlist,certainly not a bum.

    And like i mentioned some of those records are incomplete check this thread about Alvaro Rojas.

    http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=150294&highlight=rojas
     
  3. Atlanta

    Atlanta Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Mayweather gets persecuted for having his name mentioned in a sentence near Matthew Hatton's, imagine if he fought someone that had a 2-4 record. ESB would be holding daily polls asking whether or not should he be erased from boxing history.
     
  4. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    You'll be surprised at how difficult today's fighters would find fighting that regularly irrespective of the level of competition. Headbutts, and cuts can occur, which also complicates the more high profile fights in that same year. I have a lot of respect for a fighter like Julio Cesar Chavez, who could have packed out Azteca Stadium fighting Greg Haugen and indeed did. 132, 247 spectators to witness their hero put a beat-down on a respected former world champion.

    Looking at Chavez's activity in 1993 makes for some impressive reading. He fought a total of 6 times, including bouts with Pernell Whitaker, Terrance Ali, Greg Haugen, and Andy Holligan. With the exception of maybe Holligan, those other three aforementioned fighters were all world caliber.
     
  5. FlatNose

    FlatNose Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Back before TV there was plenty of boxers and plenty of boxing. The inner cities were full of gyms and small fight clubs. Top guys would keep busy by fighting the local tomato cans.
    But back then, there were more really skilled fighters than there are today. A guy not ranked in the 20's thru 50's would be a partial beltholder today. There were more fighters and less titles.
    Sure guys like Robinson and Pep travelled around using local yokles as punching bags. But there were still a lot of quality fighters around. A good part of the 100+ fights these guys had were against quality fighters.
     
  6. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Exactly. This is why I sometimes find it hard to gauge modern fighters vs old-timers. Fighting so scarcely once you hit the big time as opposed to that regular grind of fights, even with no-names is something to consider.
     
  7. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    If you're honest Boxed Ears, your staring at my avatar thinking about your next Tommy Tank.
     
  8. AceNguyen

    AceNguyen Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Fight lots of fights and lots of bums.

    Look at James Toney, who has an amazing (by modern standards) 72 wins.

    After his win over Iran Barkley, he fought:

    1993-10-29 168 Tony Thornton 167 35-5-1
    1993-08-24 174½ Larry Prather 172 10-10-0
    1993-07-29 169 Danny Garcia 165 25-9-0
    1993-06-06 173 Glenn Thomas 172 24-1-0
    1993-04-17 169 Ricky Thomas 163 11-9-1
    1993-03-23 172 Govoner Chavers 169 9-3-1

    All in one year.
     
  9. ricardinho

    ricardinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Incidentally, I would say that these fighters were able to do so because they generally had a superior defense. Chavez himself rarely got tagged he knew how to get inside without having to take the punishment.

    So Gavilan, Robinson, and Pep have a resume composed of bums?
     
  10. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    Taking in consideration Toney's weight problems staying active was the best thing he could do even if it was against sub par opposition.
     
  11. ricardinho

    ricardinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree above 50 wins tends to be the standard as well.

    I think the advantage is that these fighters had were that they were in shape year round as they were always in the gym and as a result they did not have to cut weight like todays fighters.
     
  12. doylexxx

    doylexxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    archie moore 141 kos
     
  13. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Exactly my point about the incomplete records. If boxrec is showinga fighter 2-4-0, it is unlikely he has 54-4-0 record, probably more like 20-18-0.

    Rojas had according to that thread 75 fights...66 wins...9 losses, 66 losses. What Duran did, 66 other fighters did. Sorry but when you have as many losses as you have wins, in the boxing world, that is considered a bum. Although the reality is, thats a respectable record.

    Im not dissing Duran's record, he fought a lot of guys who didnt deserve to be in the same ring but he also fought a lot of top fighters. I only count the top fighters though when rating a fighter. Thats why SRL with 35 or so fights is much higher ATG than Chavez with his 100+ wins.
     
  14. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    :huh:huh
    Its not 66 losses its 75 fights-66 wins and nine losses.

    But i understand what you're trying to say.
     
  15. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    In the event that Floyd Mayweather Jr fought 6-7 times this year and Matthew Hatton was among the names, in addition to Shane Mosley and Manny Pacquiao - it'd be extremely difficult to criticize the man, don't you think?