Boxing's popularity in the US has almost doubled this decade - new study

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by croz, Nov 20, 2012.


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  1. m8te

    m8te Oh you ain't know? Full Member

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    37 x 2 = 74
     
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  2. Porgeous Porge

    Porgeous Porge Well-Known Member Full Member

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    how is popularity measured?

    i bet the majority only watched 2 fighters or is it consistent HBO SHO ESPN Spanish channel other channels

    i mean these could be inflated

    ill admit as being of the generation that UFC promotes too it hasnt stuck

    of my friends only one is a real MMA fan, he's like me with boxing watches religiously posts in MMA forums knows the history of the sport

    kids my age on facebook only put statuses about the biggest of big fights and its only a couple

    about as many statuses about a Floyd or Manny fight compared to UFC statuses
     
    Porgeous Porge, Nov 20, 2012
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  3. Statman

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    I am not surprised at all. I don't like to watch mixed martial arts and neither do my friends. All mma fighters look the same. It is mostly bald white guys or random brazilians who all dress the same and fight the same boring ass style.
     
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  4. croz

    croz Member Full Member

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    Had another look around and found an MMA Payout article saying MMA's US fan base was around 31 million in 2010. That could be considered the end of the peak.

    http://mmapayout.com/2010/11/the-ufc-fan-base/

    The size of the UFC fan base in the United States is estimated to be approximately 31 million people. You can see below how this compares to the size of the general fan base of the other major sports played in the US over the last three years. Note that the UFC was the only property to experience growth in its fan base of the last three years.


    The UFC is the one in decline now. That 31 million figure I posted for MMA fans has dropped by about 26% in 2011 alone. In 2012 the numbers have also declined but there's no report on that. You could probably slash 30% off that 31 million MMA fans mentioned above. They could get it back again obviously but that shows how quickly things can fall apart.

    source:
    http://www.fastcompany.com/3002947/ufc-tries-prove-its-capable-knockout
    Many fans now accuse the UFC of propping up one big bout with a lot of less-consequential ones, which could be why pay-per-view revenue is slipping: It declined last year by 26%, to $310 million, according to financial research firm SNL Kagan.
     
    croz, Nov 21, 2012
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  5. Atlanta

    Atlanta Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    37 to 50 what? Total viewers? PPV buys? What was the total growth of other sports in the US, like Football, Basketball, and Baseball?
     
    Atlanta, Nov 21, 2012
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  6. megavolt

    megavolt Constantly Shadowboxing Full Member

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    Hmm... well boxing grew from 37 to 50M, but MMA grew from ZERO to 9M? sounds more like a milestone for MMA really..

    either way, this still needs to be charted against other sports and their relative growth in the last decade as well as the population growth 282M-313M and median income levels (who can afford tv's and ****), GDP and employment theres a lot of factors not just immigration
     
    megavolt, Nov 21, 2012
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  7. Genaro G

    Genaro G Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I know at least 20 boxing fans and maybe only 2 or 3 of them arent mexican. Id say 1 of them follow the sport as closely as i do. And hes chicano like me. Soccer is obviously #1 for the majority of us. Not me i could care less about it
     
    Genaro G, Nov 21, 2012
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  8. MexicanMuscle

    MexicanMuscle Mexican Powerhouse Full Member

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    It's evident how much we love boxing, when every channel in spanish here has boxing fights. Azteca America, Galavision, Telefutura, Telemundo, Fox Sports en Español, and ESPN Deportes.
     
    MexicanMuscle, Nov 21, 2012
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  9. croz

    croz Member Full Member

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    NHL has hit a notable decline but I don't have figures. We know TV ratings are falling and networks are taking them off.

    Baseball and Nascar are also declining sports, but Nascar had a bump up in 2012.

    To place it on population growth you would literally have to say almost every one born after 2002 became boxing fans.

    I made a mistake about MMA, it was actually 30 million fans as of 2010, but declined by 25% in 2011, and also likely decline again in 2012 since their PPV buys/gates and TV ratings all declined two years in a row. Basically MMA started to decline directly after Brock Lesnar retired.

    This is a chart showing the number of fans per sport curtosy of MMA payout. I love how they neglected to show boxing among the other sports. Don't want their peons knowing their place on the totem pole.

    This content is protected


    This indicates the number of WILLING boxing fans is on par with the NBA and baseball. However, we have to say willing because most people don't even have access to HBO or Showtime. There's still a waiting market for boxing should they return to a more accessible TV station in future. And I mean with a real fight, not with these little fights they've been putting on NBC and CBS.
     
    croz, Jan 2, 2013
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  10. madara

    madara Guest

    Probably due to youtube popularity and the various HQ camera angles. It's also a lot easier to keep up with two or three big boxing names than it is nfl and nba teams that got chopped up in and out all the time
     
    madara, Jan 2, 2013
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  11. ButtBread

    ButtBread @bettingboxing Full Member

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    I'm sure that's a big factor. I took a few years off when I just didn't have $1,000 a year to follow a sport on TV. Quickly came to feel like a chump for ever forking over all that cash and just forgot about it. Started getting back into it online and it soon became my number one sport again, by far. Youtube, streams and file sharing are saving boxing from its own greed.
     
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  12. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    So much for the "boxing is dying" crowd. :rofl :rofl
     
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  13. Scar

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    "Boxing will die when Ali leaves"

    "Boxing will die when Leonard leaves"

    "Boxing will die when Tyson leaves"

    "Boxing will die when Holyfield leaves"

    "Boxing will die when Lewis leaves"

    "Boxing will die when De La Hoya leaves"

    "Boxing will die when Trinidad leaves"

    "Boxing will die when Pacquiao leaves"

    "Boxing will die when Mayweather leaves"

    Soon to come...

    "Boxing will die when Ward leaves"

    "Boxing will die when Donaire leaves"

    "Boxing will die when Broner leaves"?

    :-((
     
    Scar, Jan 2, 2013
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  14. Tman6t9

    Tman6t9 Member Full Member

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    Yep. As I say to the naysayers, if it was going to die out, it would have happened a long time ago.
     
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  15. ButtBread

    ButtBread @bettingboxing Full Member

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    You don't see a downward trend there?

    I use the mom test for things like this. My mom knows exactly who Tyson and Oscar are. She probably recognizes Manny and Floyd's names and knows that they are boxers. I doubt she will ever know who Nonito and Broner are unless they marry movie stars or something.
     
    ButtBread, Jan 2, 2013
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