Boxing's Worst Enemy

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by booradley, Sep 3, 2010.


  1. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Over the past few years I've come to believe that the number one reason boxing does not get more mainstream media attention is because boxing fans, and boxing "journalists" pretty much suck. Boxing is the only sport in the world where the fans and so called journalists kill the wounded, and defecate all over the rookies at every opportunity.

    In football if a player takes a big hit, and the coach has to take him out of the game, everyone hopes the team can win without him, and that the player will be okay. In boxing if a fighter gets knocked out, he's a glass jawed joke.

    In basketball if a player ends up on the injured list, no one tries to claim he is a coward who is ducking the big game. In boxing if a fighter sustains an injury, he is a ***** and a faker.

    In football, baseball, basketball, and soccer, every team has a game schedule they must adhere to. No matter how over matched a given team may be in certain games, no one complains. The fans simply accept the fact that this is the schedule. In boxing if a sanctioning body appoints a sub-par mandatory, the champ immediately becomes a joke who is feasting on bums.

    In all other sports if a coach gives a rookie a shot at proving himself, and he fails, it's oh-well, he's young, and will improve over time. In boxing if a prospect or young contender loses a fight, he's an over rated hype job. Sometimes boxing fans don't even wait for a young guy to lose before they start shitting all over him. For example there is a thread right now titled "Let's decide who will be the next hype job," and that miserable piece of garbage is 26 pages long.

    This ought not to be. I for one am willing to make a firm commitment to change the way I talk about prize fighters, and the prizes they fight for. How many of you are willing to do the same?
     
  2. janeschicken

    janeschicken hard work! deadicayshin! Full Member

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    And on ESB, if the fighter is Sergio Martinez, there are only 24 hours before he leaves the ring on a stretcher....
     
  3. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    I think its cause of the availability of the sport to the mainstream as to why it doesnt get much coverage. On cable you only get 2nd class fighting and if you want to watch more quality fights you need to get HBO or Showtime and thats not even enough if you want to see the high profiled fights you would have to dish out $50 for a big fight for one night.

    Can you imagine if football did something of the samething?
     
  4. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    First, $50 dived among 4 people is $12.50 each. There is nothing there to complain about.

    Second, none of the things you mentioned stops media coverage.
     
  5. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This is one of the side effects of having the boxing coverage go to the pay channels. Boxing isn't as easy to get hold of now and that makes the hype so much more. It's a shame but guys like Daniel Jacobs, who are good fighters, get tested too early and they're done. If that had happened 30 years ago, it would have been a set back but they'd be back on TV in a few weeks. Now that they aren't, the hype ends from HBO, Showtime, Sky etc., and they aren't given a chance by the stations to recover so the fans just copy that.

    It's a vicious circle and actually a Catch 22 situation because boxing would be more appealing to the free TV channels, if boxers were allowed to bounce back, rather than be written off.

    I do agree that there is far too much of a knee jerk reaction when a guy loses though. Styles make fights and that has to be understood. Rarely in boxing, do you see two top fighters which is actually decided simply by who the better man is. Usually, it's far more complex than that, which is why boxing is such an interesting sport.
     
  6. Jay23

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    Maybe this is true in the states but not so in the UK.
    it's not just boxers that take a hammering from fans and media it's basically any high profile sportsmen and also upcoming prospects. The knives are out for them all wether
    it be boxing, football, cricket or whatever one slip up either professionally or in their personal life their getting it from the media and the fans/haters.
    I'm not saying this is right or wrong but what you have said regarding boxing could be said of any sport in the UK.
     
  7. HOF'er

    HOF'er Fair and Balanced Posting Full Member

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    it doesn't STOP media coverage but it minimizes it. The media eports whatever is going to interest the most people..

    If a fight was on network TV, more people would see it, hence more media coverage.

    Its not that PPVs are SO expensive, its that people flipping through the channels on a Saturday night usually don't go "Oh yeah I heard about that boxing match, I think I'll pay 55 bones to watch it".

    Its NOT the fans.. WE scream for Haye-Wlad and get nothing. Pray for Pac-FMJ and get nothing..

    We owe the promoters nothing.. Its their mess. They need to fix it
     
  8. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    See that bold line? That is an absolute. It's my contention that we the fans, and the boxing media carry a large part of the responsility. If you were a casual fan, or a new fan, would the dialogue on ESB turn you on or off? Would Rafeals rants turn you on or turn you off? Go back and listen to Lampley **** all over Jacobs, Pirog, and the WBO, and then try and tell me boxing does not shoot itself in the foot at every opportunity.
     
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  10. Jorodz

    Jorodz watching Gatti Ward 1... Full Member

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    good point. it begins with free network tv

    dana white created a brilliant business model. i was a MEGA ufc fan for years and black belt magazine created a list of things to do to save the ufc some years ago. hard to imagine but yes, it went bankrupt and no, there were no fans. it was worthless

    then they changed the rules to make it a sport. then they got licensed in new states (creating more fans by grass roots methods). then they starting pitting the best against the best in weight classes. finally, and most importantly, they created the ultimate fighter show and here we are

    the contender was **** and a joke. we need to bring boxer to the public, so that when the public tunes in once a year to a ppv it's not mayweather marquez but instead, tunes in weekly to saad muhammad vs lopez
     
  11. jpab19

    jpab19 Exploding Muffin Dad Full Member

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    I agree with people caring about losses too much. I've been at fights and the MC could say a guy has 34 wins, 1 loss and 2 draws and you hear people around you saying ''oh, that guy lost, he's probably a useless fighter''. I remember I was at Dunne-Poonsawat and even though Dunne had won the first 2 rounds, I knew he was going to get KO'ed soon because of the way he was fighting, and when I said it you could hear people around me saying ''that guy's an idiot, doesnt he know Poonsawat lost before?''.
     
  12. ant

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    i agree and this is why ;ess and less fighters are taking risks these days they need to rpotect ther records they know what will happen to a devastatin defeat thers alot of fighters i notice that can never get back onto hbo for big fights cas they dont have the backing anymore its a shame
     
  13. Doc (aka Meke)

    Doc (aka Meke) Active Member Full Member

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    PPV is boxing biggest enemy!
     
  14. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Pay Per View is a phenomal success that allows boxers, and the people on the business end of the sport, to make surreal amouts of money. PPV is not the enemy. So called "boxing fans" who whine and snivel over splitting a $50 cost with 3 or 4 friends are the enemy.
     
  15. Jetmax

    Jetmax Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's a harsh and brutal sport. It follows.
    In all those other sports you mentioned players don't deliberately get hurt. When they get an injury it is usually the coach that forbids them to play, not the player. Etc. etc.

    You statements looks like a sound observation on paper. But it's more complicated than that. Some of your points are valid though. But that is because boxing fans are generally fickle and fights are too few and far in-between that prevents making a consensus for say, if a fighter is really glass jawed or he just got unlucky.