BoxRec all time P4P ranking.

Roy Jones above Canzoneri is giving me a brain aneurysm.

 

I believe the algorithm is based on who beat who and where the boxers were ranked at the time.

 

I thought you'd never ask

I prefer tiers to straight lists coz the order will inevitably become extremely subjective. I'd rather have a tier list, then rank them in their own tiers, if you know what I mean. So that's what I've done, basically:

GOAT:
#01. Harry Greb

Tier 1:
#02. Ray Robinson
#03. Henry Armstrong
#04. Sam Langford
#05. Ezzard Charles
#06. Benny Leonard

Tier 2:
#07. Roberto Duran
#08. Muhammad Ali
#09. Barney Ross
#10. Archie Moore
#11. Willie Pep
#12. Tony Canzoneri
#13. Joe Louis
#14. Ray Leonard
#15. Bob Fitzsimmons
#16. Joe Gans
#17. Jimmy Wilde
#18. Jimmy McLarnin
#19. Packey McFarland
#20: Terry McGovern

Tier 3:
#21: Tommy Loughran
#22: Gene Tunney
#23: Mickey Walker
#24: Jack Britton
#25: Sandy Saddler
#26: Manny Pacquiao
#27: Floyd Mayweather
#28: George Dixon
#29: Holman Williams
#30: Tommy Ryan
#31: Charley Burley
#32: Kid Gavilan
#33: Marvin Hagler
#34: Roy Jones Jr.
#35: Michael Spinks
#36: Tommy Hearns
#37: Ruben Olivares
#38: Billy Conn

Tier 4:
#39: Bernard Hopkins
#40: Emile Griffith
#41: Ike Williams
#42: Tommy Gibbons
#43: Fighting Harada
#44: Pernell Whitaker
#45: Alexis Arguello
#46: Julio Cesar Chavez
#47: Mike Gibbons
#48: Vicente Saldivar
#49: Carlos Monzon
#50: Freddie Welsh
#51: Jose Napoles
#52: Eder Jofre
#53: Ted Kid Lewis
#54: Midget Wolgast
#55: Maxie Rosenbloom

 

I think that depends on the criteria you apply for assessing "greatness" in your ATG list.

If it's merely who has the greatest set of names on their respective win resumes, then obviously Canzernori blows RJJ out of the water.

If you're also factoring in dominance during their respective primes, I.e. factoring in dominance in their key wins AND factoring in their losses, to make a determination of who the greater fighter was during their respective prime years, I think RJJ and Canzernori are pretty close.

Again, Canzernori has by far the deeper win resume, but applying my criteria, that's somewhat offset by the fact he lost multiple times during his prime to fighters who weren't as good as some RJJ dominated in 1-sided fashion.

RJJ, Hagler and Hearns over Fitzsimmons, Ali, Walker, Gans, McFarland and Ross, though, I just can't see that using any assessment criteria of the greatness they achieved during their respective careers.

 

Void ahead of Greb LOOOOOOOOOL they have zero credibility

 

Very true… but **** me the Boxrec list is more futile than a lot of these lists I’ve seen.

 

I think McLarnins got every right to be up there.. he's got one of the best resumes in history.. I think he fought something like 14 Hall of Fame Fighters beating 13 of them.. he also probably has the greatest first round Ko in history.. when he knocked out young Corbett who himself is a legit all-time great.. Corbett went on to beat a who's who at MW & LHW.. Conn, Lesnevich, Walker, Apostoli etc.. 155 fights & apart from two very early career KOs in his first 4 fights the only other fighter to KO him was a career MW in 8 rounds at the end of his career.. that win for McLarnin is one of the greatest wins in history. Overall its a **** list tho.. & if Griffith should be higher than Benvenutti certainly should be on it.. another criminally underrated fighter.. Olympic gold medalist and undisputed at two weeks. Same as Usyk...

 

SRR, Greb, McLarnin, Ali, Duran, SRL, Marciano, Pac, Holyfield, Monzon.

In no order are my standard top 10 that i rarely deviate from. Just personal preference others will disagree.

So many fighters missing off of that list tho .. Benvenutti, Morales, Holyfield, Whitaker, Marciano .. I'd also add Usyk now.. hes a legit ATG in my book now too.

Awful list. But others may think mine is but hey ho...