Boxrec British Top 15 P4P

Pretty spot on i would say.

 

Pretty good list IMHO. You can argue Haye or Hatton at 2 fair enough, but the Hitman shades it for me on overall accomplishments. Froch is too high at 4 considering the lack of names on his record, though to be fair he has been pulled out on more times than a two dollar *****. Anyone who ranks him above Hatton is smoking something they shouldn't be. Woods is far too low and I'd have Enzo Mac and Cook above Jamie Moore, but the rest ain't too bad. Khan still deserves to be there as well, everything about him is potential world class except his chin. And Michael Jennings is worthy of consideration as well.

1. Calzaghe
2. Hatton
3. Haye
4. Woods
5. Witter
6. Enzo
7. Froch
8. Cook
9. Arthur
10. Khan
11. Munroe
12. Moore
13. Barnes
14. Ajose Olusegun (to make Olu happy and since he's now eligible for British)
15. Elcock

 

:nut

 

A more realistic list

Calzaghe
Haye
Hatton
Froch
Witter
Munroe
Cook
Maccarinelli
Woods
Arthur

Moore, Barker, Rhodes, Williams, Murray, Mitchell would make up the other places. Can't be bothered ordering them.

 

Hows Arthur make any list, he has achieved sod all and been exposed on multiple occassions, then he bitches about weight problems and judges. AAA is the biggest ***** in boxing.

 

In that case, many of these guys have done less than sod all. He could be lower, but he is in the top 15 one way or another.

 

TBH you're pissing in the wind trying to rank any more than the top 8-10.

 

True because we have some excellent boxers and the also rans like Arthur, Amir who are not even world class but just hype jobs.

 

Munroe not being ranked is criminal, he should be top 10. He may or may not have any success at world level since he's in a tough division and lacks power, but he's skilled and has a decent scalp in Martinez.

What has Jamie Moore done that is so much better? Wayne Elcock? Barker and Barnes?

The flaws of the computerised system.

 

To be fair, Boxrec don't actually have a British p4p, this has been put together by using the individual total scores in their respective divisions. But yeah, their ranking system is dump in general.

 

He's won and defend the European belt against some pretty decent operators though there isn't a top ten fighter in there. He may have lost a couple but Cook is ranked above him and Gomez is well past it now. I'd be surprised if anyone could name fifteen Brits with a convincing case for being ranked above him.

 

To all those saying Boxrec's ranking system is @#$%....

It is and it isn't - Ranking systems are really difficult to get right. I've worked on lots for football and there you get the same teams playing again and again week-in-week-out, more or less performing at peak each time. Boxing is SOO hard to rank accurately with the vagaries of one bad performance. For example, how can you tell a computer that PacMan maybe deserves less points for his victory of DLH than you thought going in to the fight ?
The boxrec effort seems poor - there are so many ways you can disagree with their order - but, the list of the thread title is actually very good. There are a few names to high or too low (eg. Moore, Barker), but most fans would agree roughly with the order it comes up with.
To do that over 10 fighters out of hundreds, considering very different levels of experience and across the weights is quite impressive. I say that as someone who's first boxing ranking effort made David Tua 200 points better than Lennox !

 

our British Isles P4P

Hatton
Haye
Froch
Witter
Woods
Moore
Dunne
Munroe
Olafabi
Cook
Khan
Booth
Napa
Mitchell
Macklin

http://theboxingbulletin.blogspot.com/2009/05/british-scene-pound-4-pound-top-15.html

 

1. David Haye
2. Ricky Hatton
3. Carl Froch
4. Junior Witter
5. Clinton Woods
6. Amir Khan
7. Jamie Moore
8. Ryan Rhodes
9. Kell Brook
10. Kevin Mitchell

My list.