Boxrec.com ratings a joke

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  1. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He didn't beat Canelo, but no need to beat a dead horse. That's why there's gonna be a rematch. It wasn't his first fight in the division, but it was his first fight at the limit. He's fought above the limit and below, but not precisely at 160 before. For him to get a draw vs Gennady is impressive and his performance regardless of scoring should have raised his P4P ranking. He can't go any higher though, he was already #1.
     
  2. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pretty sure Ward was #1 before.
     
  3. james5000

    james5000 2010's poster of the decade Full Member

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    Canelo is obviously the smaller man, to argue otherwise is foolish.

    Tbf 160 is probably more of an advantage for Canelo, he makes the weight a lot easier and is 100% @ the weight. GGG looks like a holocaust victim @160 so he is probably extremely drained and better suited to 168.

    This is the grey area of p4p and when weight classes disadvantage fighters. It is why I hate p4p. Should Floyd and pacman get credit beating corpses? I mean draining blokes 4lbs could make them half the fighter they would be at their best weight even if Floyd and Pacman are the smaller guy.

    Should Canelo get full credit going life and death with the corpse of GGG? Probably not maybe GGG is 20% better and annihilates him @ 168?

    GGG is 35yo and was a 165lber 20 years ago, ffs he needs to move up asap
     
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  4. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Don't you think that's a bit of an exaggeration? Anything to take away from what Canelo accomplished I guess . . . I mean G and his trainer stated that he'd have no problem going down to 154 to fight Floyd lmao.
     
  5. JacK Rauber

    JacK Rauber Unbourboned by what has been Full Member

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    I'm not saying it was a cakewalk for GGG but clearly he was the aggressor the whole fight. He carried the fight. Canelo was in survival mode. The irony is, when he stood and fought he held his own or even did better than GGG. The problem was, Canelo either didn't have the balls or the confidence to stand in there for any length of time. If he had he may have been able to stop GGG. But, in the end, I don't think Canelo has the true inner belief, in part because he didn't have the stamina to match GGG.
     
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    Lith Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Perhaps he felt GGG was hurting him more than he was hurting GGG and the reason he didn't have the "balls" or "confidence" was that he was more likely to end up laid out than the other way around... and actually staying in the fight was a better option in order to try to win
     
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    Would not say they suck. Pretty accurate really.
     
  8. JacK Rauber

    JacK Rauber Unbourboned by what has been Full Member

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    Maybe so but I thought Canelo did well when he stopped to actually fight. The fact that he didn't stop to fight most of the time was reason enough to give GGG the nod. The only people who will say Canelo fought GGG to a draw are so biased they can't give a fair assessment. Canelo lost this fight, make no mistake about it.
     
  9. james5000

    james5000 2010's poster of the decade Full Member

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    Canelo is a natural counter puncher, he needs to have an opponent throwing at him to set up his own offense.

    GGG was too scared to throw punches especially when Canelo was goading him on the ropes so Canelo never looked as good as he could have.
     
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    RealDeal Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    Boxrec sent me to a hardcore porn site the other day when I was sitting right next to my girlfriend.
     
  11. JacK Rauber

    JacK Rauber Unbourboned by what has been Full Member

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    You aren't serious, are you?
     
  12. RealDeal

    RealDeal Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    I’m totally serious. Boxrec used to just send me to stupid spam sites but yesterday it redirected me to porn. I closed the window too fast to notice what the specific website was.
     
  13. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    ^ Ya'll need to get a basic pop up blocker...

    Given it's a formula that they can't tweak for one guy here and there, it makes sense that the occasional "wtf" moments will arrive. But they have too many of them. Ultimately they have bad rankings but it's not too far from what we see on here when P4P lists get posted. Their divisional rankings are better than their P4P but also questionable and they at least used to translate the entire success in previous divisions, causing a skew.
     
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    That’s what I’d tell her too, lol.
     
  15. Angler Andrew

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    I thought I was looking at Canelos ranking pre GGG fight when I saw this,Canelo is an elite PFP fighter to be sure but Gennady Golovkin is just higher,not talking about hypothetical flash skills just real results and the fact that GGG even now in his age just doesn’t know how to lose and to hear him talk he’s dying for a fight where someone will have a go at beating him.