Boxrec has fury #2 and wilder #5 PFP

pfp thing is ridiculous, a heavyweight is always better then a flyweight.

 

P4P = 'What if all the boxers were the same size?' As simple as that. It doesn't exclude big men from the conversation. P4P is a discussion about how well men fight and how well they could all hang with each other if they were of about equal size.

Men of Fury's size are rarely able to fight like he fights. There is a point at which size typically becomes a detriment in terms of coordination, litheness/dexterity, quickness, accuracy, basically most of the qualities that make great boxers.

Hypothetically (which is what P4P is about), how good might Fury be if he was smaller? How good might the smaller P4P'ers be if they were blown up to 6'9" and 250+ pounds?


Fury demonstrates a fine boxing brain (and has shown himself eminently teachable), which should be a key component of P4P considerations.

He should definitely be in The Ring's P4P Top 10 by now.

 

Farmer has a longer track record of midlevel wins. It's about accumulating points. Just beating one guy with a lot won't get you to the top. That's the logic the algorithm operates on. Consistency and tenure are rewarded.

 

Scandalous.

Tyson Fury is clearly the number 1 boxer in the world.

To have him at number 2 is an utter joke.

 

Their current algorithm didn't send Ruiz to the top after that. If you look at his page, he didn't even go above AJ after the win.

 

Not under the new algorithm. Maybe under the old one. You have to remember that Fury/Wilder were a deadlock and AJ had built up the most points on B level wins. Ruiz beating him was an A+ level win. But in the Farmer/Diaz case, the one win didn't upset the scale.

They do make individualized mistakes somehow which is sketchy. I know Akhmadaliev was like #17 at BW after this update, and they immediately had to fix it. This suggests they might be fraudulent and have to personally weight so stuff to make it sensible. Makes the whole endeavor seem kind of pointless. Of course, that's even more a reason not to take it seriously. Citing Boxrec rankings is like citing punch stats. Doesn't mean much without context.

 

That was the old algorithm.
https://i.imgur.com/Lu6gvQL.png

Joshua dropped from 747 to 566.
Ruiz rose from 243 to 251.

 

You think they might have realised when their new system led to Wilder being P4P no5, there was something seriously flawed with their system.

No one in their right mind - not even the most rabid Wilder fan - would argue in favour of this ranking.

 

I like how people will be upset about Wilder but not Fury... when Fury's position is due to him beating Wilder lol. Wilder will never get any respect, and yet he is the foundation for the fighter they call the greatest. Completely nonsensical.